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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

It should idles reasonably well with that, synch those carbs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Found a fire hazard:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

I could use some pointers on adjusting the accelerator pump.

I noticed some vacuum from the line from next to the oil filler and it affects the idle if I don't block it. Should there be a check valve there?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

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........ the line from next to the oil filler .....

Picture?, where does it attach on each end?

Pump adjustment is spec'd in Bentley, for a quick and dirty job start with both in the middle of their range and see if it bogs out when you step on the gas.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Vacuum lines, two lines are currently stuffed with used spark plugs.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Shocked How about some more pics, there's alot going on there and some of it looks wrong, but different angles will confirm.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Looks like you have a motor out of a FI injected Type 4 which has a different crankcase ventilation setup than the similar engine in a bus has. You should find a breather box for a 72-74 bus and then pare down on the rest of the breather system as little of the extra stuff is needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I’ll get some more pictures. I had the vacuum lines running to the air box thinking it would fire right up. Air box removed to help me with access to the carb and distributor.

It had a 2.0 in it, this is a 1.7 out of a 74 914, that was carbureted when I received it, single two barrel, that leaked like a sieve. Prompting me to try the dual singles.

I'll go through what was on there to see what I can reduce.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Being able to see the ground is not good, the engine compartment needs to be well sealed for the cooling system to work well, you need all the correct tin and the foam seal.

If you have ventilation ports in the heads, you should block those off and not feed them into the air cleaners, and as mentioned above you want the correct breather box for a carbureted engine, though there are probably ways to make the one you have work well with carbs, it isn't plug and play.

Where is the red hose that disappears to the lower right heading off to?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Thanks wildthings, I have a box of tins that I still need to sort, but I’m not very motivated to do that until it’s running.

I do have breather ports in the head and running them to the air box, I’d like to understand why capping them off is better.

Can you also help me understand the difference in breather boxes. This EA engine was FI from factory, but someone swapped to the single carb?

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The previous engine was stamped GA, fuel injected 2.0, so my other breather box will be wrong again?

The large vacuum line coming from the bottom right of the picture and ending near the fuel filter, capped with a spark plug is coming from the hard line that crosses the engine under the air box. The smaller one from the same cross is going to a “T” on the ceiling of the engine compartment and heading to either side to hard lines, fuel tank vents?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

I was going through some parts today, Is this the carb breather?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

camino70 wrote:
I was going through some parts today, Is this the carb breather?

It might work, it's not a bus version, maybe 411 or 914?, the critical deal is there any sort of diaphragm or valve, or restrictor in that white part?, or is it just open?, if it's open then it'll work for carbs.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

There’s some sort of one way valve, I’d have called it a pcv.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

This is the breather off of my 74 2.0, same pcv type function.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

I’ve spent some time on the bus today and I’m leaning towards fuel delivery issues, may or may not be related to my abilities rebuilding the carbs. Currently using the duals.

I also have this 32/36 dfav in need of outside help.



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I could use advice on next steps, find someone local to rebuild the duals or single? Send the duals off, I’m having a hard time accepting the price and wait (although this is probably the right answer)? Get a new 32/36 or another dual setup?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Installing the Weber will be the equivalent of putting a rock in your shoe on purpose, how much do you enjoy grief?

There's only one guy I'd have rebuild Solex, Tim at Volkzbitz.com, not cheap, but just like opening up a blue box after coming home from the VW dealer when they still sold parts for buses.

What exactly is the symptom that's bugging you?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

I can’t get it to idle under 1k, seems to start losing fuel and sounds like it’s running on 2 or 3 cylinders. It starts sputtering out under 1k. Seems to rev fine above that.

I noticed the passenger side carb stopped pushing fuel out of the accelerator pump this afternoon, which I recently replaced. I know carb rebuilding isn’t my forte and I’m beginning to get discouraged.

I rechecked valve gap at .006, timing is about 7 if I can keep it at 850, up to 28ish at 3500ish.

I need to plug the vents out of the heads, currently connected to vacuum hose.
I have not sorted the breather box, all three that I have contain a diagram or ? (Not free flowing).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

Until you get that vacuum hose snarl figured out don't go writing off the carbs just yet, that one with the spark plug in the end has to be capped off at the balance tube, you aren't feeding an air pump. Any vacuum leaks are going to show up at idle, when it's dying can you save it by cupping your hand over the carb throat a bit so it creates a slight sucking feeling?

That breather with the restrictor could work if you can un restrict it a bit, the carb version has a reed valve that only allows flow out, but it also has a 12mm port in it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Intro - 1974 Westfalia Reply with quote

I don’t understand the difference in capping the vacuum lines with a spark plug vs capping, but here’s my attempt and better shot of the line to the tank vents:

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