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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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As a general rule a boot that has the ridges to hold a clamp in place should be clamped and one that does not should not be clamped. The ones without the ridges tend to be thicker at the small end than the boots that require a clamp. I actually have not seen one of the boots that is designed not to need a clamp in quite a while at this point in time. I will look through my stash of old boots and axles to see if I can get a picture. |
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termuehlen Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2012 Posts: 994 Location: Redwood City
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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I purchased and installed the VW boots, as identified by Dave. The part number has changed. VW told me 1K0-498-201 part number is no longer available. The new part number is (2Q0-498-202, $35.52 per) and the
VW grease (G-052-133-A3, $22.50 per). The new part number matches the labels in Dave's photos. Here are my pictures:
_________________ 1988 Westfalia automatic Subaru OBD1
1986 syncro tintop wbx |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32625 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9613 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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I just ordered 8 Tiguan boots. $36 each + 13.23 shipping ( from vwpartsnowonline.com
I have some cracked boots, and a very minor leak starting.
They are NOT old boots, probably 35,000 miles max.
Hopefully they all make it into the winter and I'll have a pile of boots ready for CV servicing..
I have a LARGE project pile.... Some new CVs too.
So many new parts I've forgotten what's there. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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candyman Samba Trout Slayer
Joined: December 20, 2003 Posts: 2694 Location: Missoula MT
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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I truly hope these are the answer to the boots issue. I just replaced another less than 13k mile rockford boot last weekend. Thats 3 now in 4 years. Ive been using up my good used original vw boots that I have hoarded over the years as a temp replacement, heck theyll likely last another 50k miles in the condition they are in. Thansk to all who are trying this out and reporting their findings |
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babysnakes Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:06 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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Thank you all for this thread. |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:53 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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Thanks for all this info -
Will these Tiguan boots fit the heavy duty 930 axles? _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
'65 Kombi - EZ-Camper |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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JPT Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: Southern CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:28 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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If you are looking for a boot system that works, try this. I have used this system on my lifted Thing for 15 years without one failure. I added these to 6 of my CVs on my lifted Syncro 5 years ago and I have not had any issues.
Disregard the maker (Empi) These are offroad boots made for type 2 CVs.
They are a two piece design like most of the 930 offroad boots. The number of pleets and and the bellows shape certainly helps relieve pressure.
If you did have a boot fail, they are available separately too, no need to replace the flange plate.
Check 'em. Just Google 86-9303-0 (Empi part number) _________________ '73 Thing
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9936 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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The 930 CVs are larger with a wider bolt spacing and larger diameter bolt holes.
Boots with an integral flange need to match the CV type.
Mark
kguarnotta wrote: |
Thanks for all this info -
Will these Tiguan boots fit the heavy duty 930 axles? |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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ok - thanks.
Mine - replaced last fall - less than 4,000 miles on them - and one tore already.
I used the heavy duty 930 boots from GoWesty. _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
'65 Kombi - EZ-Camper |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9613 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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Link
Whadda you guys think of this?
Do you think the boot touches on the Tiguan?
My van is lifted 1.25 inches (Syncro 19.5)
I suppose the axle-angle of a 2WD lifted to 18.5" would be the same as mine. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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erste Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2013 Posts: 1110 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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JPT wrote: |
Disregard the maker (Empi) These are offroad boots made for type 2 CVs. Check 'em. Just Google 86-9303-0 (Empi part number) |
Thanks for this info. I’m going to try these on my lifted 2wd. All four boots are torn after 2 years. Hopefully these will hold up. Buslab had them in stock, and also the flanges:
https://www.buslab.com/product-p/86-9304.htm
https://www.buslab.com/product-p/86-9305.htm |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32625 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:45 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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Sodo wrote: |
[youtube]https://youtu.be/xJ1ObwlN6Qc[/youtube
Whadda you guys think of this?
Do you think the boot touches on the Tiguan?
My van is lifted 1.25 inches (Syncro 19.5)
I suppose the axle-angle of a 2WD lifted to 18.5" would be the same as mine. |
Well, my initial thought is how much of a concern is this?
It looks like he has the body jacked up and the suspension is at full sag.
This situation will rarely if ever occur in everyday use.
I liken it to being upset the steering assembly hits the bump stop on a full lock turn.
It rarely if ever happens.
I'm going to go check my stock height 90 GL and see of the boot touches the axle but I don't expect it to be.
Sure, maybe a raised vehicle might have a problem but raised vehicles often have CV joint problems anyway. Just add it to the list.
Even if it does touch the shaft, that is all it is doing, touching.
The boot and the axle shaft are rotating in the exact same synchronization so if they touch it is in an area absolutely covered with grease. It isn't like a fan belt rubbing on a loose mounting bolt!
I've no worries, I'll check my boots but I'll still sleep soundly even if they do touch at normal suspension ride height.
These boots even if they do touch the axle shaft will still probably FAR out perform the crap "proper" boots on the market today.
Rainy morning, I'm not crawling under right now........
Dave _________________ Stop Dead Photo Links how to post photos
Ghia
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392473
Vanagon
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6315537#6315537
Beetle
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482968&highlight=74+super+vert |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9613 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:55 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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djkeev wrote: |
Sodo wrote: |
[youtube]https://youtu.be/xJ1ObwlN6Qc[/youtube
My van is lifted 1.25 inches (Syncro 19.5)
I suppose the axle-angle of a 2WD lifted to 18.5" would be the same as mine. |
It looks like he has the body jacked up and the suspension is at full sag.
This situation will rarely if ever occur in everyday use. |
This is "wheels on the ground".
Agreed, no rotation, its just pressing, releasing but the numbers are big.
Appx 12 times per second at 65mph.
Every mile it has pressed/released 646 times.
Every 1000 miles, 646,000 times.
Not sure this will last on a lifted van.
Dave (& others) I’m curious if you think the boot touches your axle at your ride height. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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CrRusty Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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Here is an option with lifetime warranty. Has anyone had experience with FCP Euro or GKN cv boots ? Appears to be OEM but is it the same quality or not?
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/audi-vw-cv-joint-...B#warranty
Audi VW CV Joint Boot Kit - GKN 1K0498201
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SKU: GKN-304203
Audi VW CV Joint Boot Kit - GKN 1K0498201
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Audi VW CV Joint Boot Kit - GKN 1K0498201
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Audi VW CV Joint Boot Kit - GKN 1K0498201
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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dabaron Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:41 am Post subject: Re: VW Tiguan CV Boot option |
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has there been a consenus on which to get, GKN or VW - Dave says VW fits the axle better and is the one to go with.
i need to make a purchase and the price point of the GKN is attractive. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo
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