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hazaa Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2016 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:19 am Post subject: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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hi guys, i have T2 1975 buss, it was all striped down (100%) sandblasted
and now guys are painting it. they also repainted all the engine bay and petrol tank. in that time i restored all engine its working and looks as new
my plan was to give engine to painter shop, so when they finish all painting
they fit in the engine and gearbox in the buss ( than when i take car i can check so there is no scratch and all looks perfect ) because they have car lift it will be easier for them.
my question if they fit engine in, than can i install after all new wires and fuel lines and gear stick and what else need in engine bay?
or better to take car put that all in and only than engine?? ( in my garage engine fit will be much more harder, thats why wanted to know, from guys how have done it already, because, for me looks its should be possible because there is no coolant tubes no brake lines....) |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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The fore-aft shift rod needs to be in before the transaxle goes in. There may be specific order for installing a few other parts as well, I would certainly do the gas tank, filler pipe, and tank vent hoses install while the engine was out. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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trusting a 3rd party painter to assemble the bus is likely to cause many issues. Are you capable of doing the work? Did you label all the parts as they were removed? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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This is going to get me in trouble.
I’m a professional mechanic. I work for a large company that employs various trade workers. We have carpenters, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc. the lowest paid trade workers we have are painters. I’ve had a few cars painted in my lifetime. It never fails that I find tail lights wired wrong, drywall screws used for attaching lenses, and various other really shitty mechanical work performed. So, let the insults begin. I can take it. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Jeff Geisen Samba Chaplain
Joined: December 21, 2004 Posts: 1883 Location: N.W. Georgia
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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Right on Gary, right on. _________________ I Corinthians 4: 1 thru 5
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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Jeff,
How are you? _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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aeromech wrote: |
This is going to get me in trouble.
I’m a professional mechanic. I work for a large company that employs various trade workers. We have carpenters, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc. the lowest paid trade workers we have are painters. I’ve had a few cars painted in my lifetime. It never fails that I find tail lights wired wrong, drywall screws used for attaching lenses, and various other really shitty mechanical work performed. So, let the insults begin. I can take it. |
It sounds to me like he is in a third world country somewhere, so people are more apt to have developed multiple talents to get by. In general I agree with you though. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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Wildthings wrote: |
aeromech wrote: |
This is going to get me in trouble.
I’m a professional mechanic. I work for a large company that employs various trade workers. We have carpenters, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc. the lowest paid trade workers we have are painters. I’ve had a few cars painted in my lifetime. It never fails that I find tail lights wired wrong, drywall screws used for attaching lenses, and various other really shitty mechanical work performed. So, let the insults begin. I can take it. |
It sounds to me like he is in a third world country somewhere, so people are more apt to have developed multiple talents to get by. In general I agree with you though. |
Sometimes, but then again just because they say they can do it doesn't mean they are good at it, take the shitshow Tonyasantacruz is going through in Mexico with multiple shops right now for example.
If you have gone through the motor by yourself you must have some skills, install the engine at home, you'll need a jack and a bunch of wood blocks. Many do it on the side of the road, doing it in the garage is so much more civilized. If you are worried about scratching things tape over any parts that may get touched and be careful.
I'd prefer to have a few small nicks touched up after than find out some savage forced something in and broke it myself. Since it goes in from below there's not much to scratch anyways. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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hazaa Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2016 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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thx for advice, but its not so bad as it looks
iam from europe, so we have such a problem as winter coming, and the problem is that in winter its harder for me to put in engine, because i have car lift but its works only outside ( because garage roof is to low ) thats why i wanted them to put in engine. so i dont loose all winter, and can finish it so i can drive it summer.
if they put in the engine than i can finish car my self i like to do it and is my 14 classic car in my collection
this project we did last year with them:
regarding the shop i dont worry to much, they have painted cars for Essen car show in germany, near my buss stands now one 2019 amg and few 911 for full repaint, so they have full service, they dont only paint but restore cars and fix cars, so thats not one the same guy
So my QUESTION is more if the engine is in i can do all the rest what i need or there are few things witch i need to install before engine?
1) fuel tank and fill up and line to engine
2) gearbox shifting mechanism
any more?? |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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shift rod with shuttle cocks and seals. Correct fuel tank, test the sender before you install the tank - I used some good jumper wires and a yardstick to lift the float while the tank was out - or have an access panel cut and fabricated now, The tank firewall including the screws under it. Make sure the heater wye is good now, build and install the sound board and insulation above the engine now. Make sure the battery and retainer fits properly before putting the engine in because it is easier to do now, If you have any wiring harness issues in the back, do it before putting the engine in. Check the fuel expansion/condensation bulbs to be sure they haven't rotted out. If your engine has the transmission upper carrier bracket, make sure that the rubber mounts are checked / replaced now. Install the engine and transmission together as a unit. Also the fuel lines have small clips that hold them etc., it is easier to get all that stuff and the fuel lines while the trans is out. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Angus II Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2016 Posts: 708 Location: Mammoth Lakes Ca. 93546
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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Hello,
Any More?. Yes, the engine seal to body.
Since, you are in Europe. Is this a type 1 or type IV engine?
And, I must live in the third world country of California. For, I was what was known in the old days as a "Combination Man" in the auto body, paint and restoration industry...
Oh, and nice looking Volvo you have there. This isn't your first rodeo.... you'll do fine. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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hazaa wrote: |
( because garage roof is to low ) |
If you can raise it 24" you can install the engine. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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hazaa Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2016 Posts: 44
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: vw t2 buss assembling question |
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SGKent wrote: |
shift rod with shuttle cocks and seals. Correct fuel tank, test the sender before you install the tank - I used some good jumper wires and a yardstick to lift the float while the tank was out - or have an access panel cut and fabricated now, The tank firewall including the screws under it. Make sure the heater wye is good now, build and install the sound board and insulation above the engine now. Make sure the battery and retainer fits properly before putting the engine in because it is easier to do now, If you have any wiring harness issues in the back, do it before putting the engine in. Check the fuel expansion/condensation bulbs to be sure they haven't rotted out. If your engine has the transmission upper carrier bracket, make sure that the rubber mounts are checked / replaced now. Install the engine and transmission together as a unit. Also the fuel lines have small clips that hold them etc., it is easier to get all that stuff and the fuel lines while the trans is out. |
1) yes i have made already access panel to fuel tank sender
2) heater wye i have in good condition thats witch is under rear axel,
rest i will make after. the heat exchange on engine is new.
3) i took out the original sound board and insulation above the engine, but plan to put wibre isolation from engine bay, and than form top also. what material you use in engine bay as sound isolation, so its less stress from heat and fire...
4) what do you mean by fuel expansion/condensation bulbs??? |
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