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Max Welton
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: Steering Column Help? |
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I have a pile of parts for the steering column / turn signal. I didn't take it apart so I don't know how it goes back together.
Now, I have the brown Bentley and the car is a 67 so it's the wrong book. But I can't even find 68+ instructions to start with.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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You might want to look thru Clatter's thread or Monte's thread for pics of rebuilding the 67 and earlier column head. I know Monte has some great pics of when he did his. Scott also has some pics from doing his early T-34 that might help.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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Reading ...
Already it looks like some parts are missing. The spring and split washer on the shaft.
Some good news ... the ignition switch is an ISP replacement so NOT 53 years old. That makes me so happy
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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What keeps the switch in place? It looks like there needs to be a screw or post through the semi-circular part to engage the switch?
PS: can someone translate those position markings?
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gt1953
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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Maybe this exploded view helps
https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/usa/type+3++type+4/t3/1967-33/4/415-49000/
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ataraxia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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You're missing a few pieces and your rubber blocks should be replaced.
Here's another exploded view:
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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I'm making a list of missing parts using https://www.vwispwest.com/pg94
113415589A Thrust Ring
113415587A Thrust Spring
113415593A Washer
111415521D Locking Shell
ISP shows some of these as sold out.
I'm wondering if my best bet would be to obtain another steering column (like from a bug) for parts. Those are all type-1 bug part numbers. A column from a 61-67 bug should do, right?
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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So ... the body meets the chassis in three weeks. That is when I need a functional steering column.
It has been suggested to me on the type3 list that a later type-3 column might work. Can anyone here confirm that?
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rustyfastback
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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| The hole for the half moon piece to bolt to the ignition switch is under the ISP sticker. I have used several of those ISP switches on early columns I have rebuilt, always work perfectly. Great product. |
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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Ahhh. Under the ISP sticker. One mystery solved.
Thanks!
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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So ... the body meets the chassis in three weeks. That is when I need a functional steering column.
It has been suggested to me on the type3 list that a later type-3 column might work. Can anyone here confirm that?
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I've been using a 71 column in my 65 Notch for 20 years now. I used the 65's lower tube though, as the 71 version was a little too short. I did have to modify the rubber bits that hold the column head to the dash though. I also added a couple of washers in there to angle the head down to a more comfortable position for me (seemed to be angled up too much).
I haven't had to touch it in the 20 years I installed it, other than replacing the electrical portion of the switch (did that during the install). Other than the self canceling portion (was broke when I got it), everything works like it's supposed to.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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Good to know. Thanks Bob
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Column Help? |
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| Max Welton wrote: |
Good to know. Thanks Bob
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Yeah, but I screwed up though, and used a 1 year only set up (71 only). If I had to do it over, I'd use a 68 thru 70 unit, as you can get parts for them.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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