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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:12 am Post subject: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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My good friend (local parts guy) here in our Czech small town took me to see a T3 now available. No papers, but they say they can get veteran status thru a friend. The van is in very good shape and all original > however of course would need plenty of work.
Too bad I don't have a garage, otherwise I would buy it immediately even if only for future parts.
Any thoughts??
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ZsZ Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2010 Posts: 1645 Location: Budapest Hungary, Europe
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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It has a JR engine from a golf, so could not be all original
It is a 85/86 body (with 87+ rear hatch, so maybe the front panel was changed) so not as good for yours to be a donor _________________ Zoltan
1.9 MTdi 2wd Multivan (ex Caravelle)
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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ZsZ wrote: |
It has a JR engine from a golf, so could not be all original
It is a 85/86 body (with 87+ rear hatch, so maybe the front panel was changed) so not as good for yours to be a donor |
You mean, model not close enough to my 81 to serve well as a parts van?
Yeah it is an '86 _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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ZsZ Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2010 Posts: 1645 Location: Budapest Hungary, Europe
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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epowell wrote: |
ZsZ wrote: |
It has a JR engine from a golf, so could not be all original
It is a 85/86 body (with 87+ rear hatch, so maybe the front panel was changed) so not as good for yours to be a donor |
You mean, model not close enough to my 81 to serve well as a parts van?
Yeah it is an '86 |
Yes. You can use some body parts, interior bits and the rear suspension arms, but swapping the gearbox, the front suspension, electrics, cooling system, etc. is not a srtaight forward job. _________________ Zoltan
1.9 MTdi 2wd Multivan (ex Caravelle)
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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what are these weird front contolling arms??? _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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Cheap Vanagon!
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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djkeev wrote: |
If memory serves, is not your unit afflicted with well advanced rust?
Why scrap the good body? Transfer your camper bits over to the better body.
Dave |
Swapping over the high-top would be major work! _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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ZsZ Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2010 Posts: 1645 Location: Budapest Hungary, Europe
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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epowell wrote: |
what are these weird front contolling arms??? |
You mean the cast iron lower arms?
Vw found out that the pressed sheet metal arms are weak and rust easily so they changed them to cast iron ( and changed all suspension parts apart the upper arm, the spring and the shocks) _________________ Zoltan
1.9 MTdi 2wd Multivan (ex Caravelle)
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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ZsZ wrote: |
epowell wrote: |
what are these weird front contolling arms??? |
You mean the cast iron lower arms?
Vw found out that the pressed sheet metal arms are weak and rust easily so they changed them to cast iron ( and changed all suspension parts apart the upper arm, the spring and the shocks) |
Aha... so these are standard 'later" lower-controlling-arms?
--i've never seen them like that before. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6348 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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Well, be prepared to fix all the bodges this van will reveal.
In just a few pics I noticed the oil pan is incorrect, so the internal oil pump pick up is wayyy wrong.
The dust plate behind the flywheel is wrong. I see a long threaded rod with nuts on both ends to bolt the transmission to engine. I would bet money they didn't put a needle bearing in the crank for the input shaft.
This thing is a pile of shit that will need TLC, better buy it very cheap, do not drive it and re-do everything. You're not gonna go far anyway with that oil pan 🤣🤣 _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10370 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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If that van has the later style diesel Vanagon engine career bars and diesel Vanagon clutch housing, those might be of some use or value.
It looks like they haven't run the engine yet, with that incorrect oil pan? The plastic soda/pop bottle indicates they were bleeding the fuel system?
Did they bend the transmission shift linkage to accommodate the engine position? (lower)
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Czech diesel T3 - dirt cheap - any thoughts? |
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Vanagon Nut wrote: |
If that van has the later style diesel Vanagon engine career bars and diesel Vanagon clutch housing, those might be of some use or value.
It looks like they haven't run the engine yet, with that incorrect oil pan? The plastic soda/pop bottle indicates they were bleeding the fuel system?
Did they bend the transmission shift linkage to accommodate the engine position? (lower)
Neil. |
Yeah - some very very weird things going on with this van... and I only showed you 10 fotos. Perhaps I should post some more for fun.
That shift linkage is a total mess... the fuel was running out of a plastic bottle... the fuel tank is majorly dented... there is no coolant in the tank...
Yes, incorrect oil pan. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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