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dabaron
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 Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'west coast westy' |
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I bet he won't give one to you like I did.......
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if you want this tin top gratis, let me know... would be nice to have you "back in the game"
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djkeev
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Sodo
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'west coast westy' |
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| dobryan wrote: |
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This one is getting a 1.8T or an EJ25. |
You've ruled out the W8?
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4Gears4Tires
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'west coast westy' |
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Why not a Mazda 20B?
That way you can maintain the original reliability of the drivetrain.
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dobryan
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vwhammer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'west coast westy' |
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I see Kennedy has an adapter for the 07K if I am reading their website correctly.
Those engines are cheap and new-ish.
They make 150 or 170hp stock depending which year you get and 170 or 177tq.
For another $1200 you could toss Integrated Engineering's intake and tune at it, do a little exhaust work and make 200+ hp and about 190tq.
Not a ton of support for 07K Vanagons currently and you would have to do almost everything else but I think it would be neat.
TDC-Shop could probably handle the wiring side of things.
Heck I've even thought about this swap myself.
You could be a trend setter.
Did I mention that a Gallardo exhaust manifold bolts on the 07k?
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dobryan
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markswagen
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'west coast westy' |
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there you have it then, best start looking for a donor 
if you do exactly the same conversion as your other rig, it'll take a lot less grey matter to figure out, if you get problems.
i hear there's a vanagon cruise down to la paz early february
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dobryan
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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Today was the big day. Delivery!
Being loaded in Carlisle PA.
100 miles later delivery near my house to a friend’s place with extra room to hold them for a while. I am lucky they are only 5 minutes from my house.
All snug for the winter. (Actually I will do some light work on them the next few weeks. )
And I will say that our local AAA totally rocks! I have had Premier coverage for years. The tow company was local to the place in PA and they are a AAA tower. The owner called AAA and AAA said they would cover both vehicles being towed for me. That saved me $750 in towing charges. Paid for 5 years of AAA right there. 
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'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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djkeev
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dobryan
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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Here is the extent of the seam rust. Not bad at all especially for a PA bus with 225,000 miles on it.
It is totally solid underneath. Just surface rust in a few places.
The old yellow respray will go away and be done in the original Titian Red. Same for the westy pop top.
Interior is just fine.
I feel very lucky to have gotten this bus to save. It will live on for a long time.
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'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
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markswagen
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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this was a two for one deal ?
what plans do you have for the tin top.
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dobryan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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| markswagen wrote: |
this was a two for one deal ?
what plans do you have for the tin top. |
Yes. I had to take both as well as a spare engine and a couple boxes of parts.
The tin top only has 90,000 miles on it but a blown engine. Some dents and dings but the body is solid. I’ll swap the alloys and tires from the westy onto it and clean it up and replace the missing parts and then sell it to someone who promises to put it back on the road. It needs to live on.
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'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
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dobryan
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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| I'd have to say, for a 'west coast' westy I wouldn't change it much at all cosmetically that minor (to north east) surface rust will keep all the tweakers and dreamers away. you'll pump gas in peace and no one is likely to steal it as is. both major bennies in my book. |
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Merian
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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For a west coast westy, you need to dip the entire thing - exterior and interior in anti-mold chemicals. You can build it out of zinc or copper to keep the moss of it.
For a western westy you don't have those problems but you need a turbo for the mtn. passes.
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dobryan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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Spent a couple hours with the two buses today on the last day of nice weather here in Maryland. Goal was to get them ready to overwinter. Spent some time spraying ospho on any rust.
BTW the tin top is really solid, no real rust at all. I am shocked.
The westy has only one bad rust area and it is at the passenger footwell but the suspension there is fine. My guess is salt got under the footpad and rotted that area out. No bad rust elsewhere.
Ready for a winters rest.
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'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
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jimf909 
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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| ...surface rust will keep all the tweakers and dreamers away. you'll pump gas in peace and no one is likely to steal it as is. both major bennies in my book. |
The first sentence is an example of benefits in my forthcoming post "In Defense of Seam Rust". It's really not as bad as people make it out to be.
As for knuckleheads assessing seam rust on Vanagons when stealing them, my guess is that it's about 300th in a long list led by: "we can sleep in it tonight", "maybe there's a stash of bologna and american cheese in the fridge" and "these are so cool, I saw one just like it on The A-Team".
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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vanagonjr
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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| I'd have to say, for a 'west coast' westy I wouldn't change it much at all cosmetically that minor (to north east) surface rust will keep all the tweakers and dreamers away. you'll pump gas in peace and no one is likely to steal it as is. both major bennies in my book. |
Funny I was thinking similarly about keeping it as is, but mainly in that one can , throw it down hurt roads w/o worry, less worry leaving the van at trailheads and, well, it's in pretty damn good shape.
this has me thinking that I would like to store a baja bug out west at a friend's place. Hmmmm.
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' |
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can you sleep in a baja?
well actually I have but that was my younger years.
build them functionally perfect and aesthetically ok..
just enough so that they don't get towed when you go into a restaurant. |
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