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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:53 pm    Post subject: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Hi all, I will try to be brief. Back in 2002 i was maybe 6 months into a sales job and had moved into my then GF condo. Was paying storage for my old 21 window bus. Came across a flier in a supermarket for a 1960 convertible. Called and went to look at and it was in all primer. I passed on it for $3500 because i had no storage. yeah stupid. Anyway flash fwd and i find this here on TS and it isnt far from me. Went to look at it and hemmed and hawed. Slept on it and made an offer. A week later and Schatze(named by the prior owners) is home. Was an original Florida car that made its way to NJ. Nice woman i bought it from owned from 2003. Her Husband was working on it and got sick and eventually passed. Now she is moving so posted it for sale. Anyway, got it home. Interior looks original and mostly complete. Outside has bondo and passenger front fender is shaky. Floors look good and engine in it looks like a brand new rebuild though i think the original engine is still at her place which i will eventual get. ok so heres the pics-enough of my blabber. Feel free to chime in as i will need all the help in the world
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

some interior pics
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and tucked in until?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

I PM’d you but yeah, that interior is original. Damn nice car.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

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I PM’d you but yeah, that interior is original. Damn nice car.


thanks! the game plan is to get some Simple Green and attack it gently. The weather here is going to be crap through the weekend so hopefully next week it improves. Still 50 degrees is no fun to be outside. Appreciate your help deciphering it!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

What a cool project, Congrats! 60 is a special year for the ghia, with a lot of specific parts Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

Wow, what a nice straight Cabriolet. I can see great things coming for this car. Amazing to think that cars like this are hidden away after 60 years! It looks so well preserved. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

That interior will clean up nicely! Do you think the exterior Paprika is original paint? Congratulations - we have friends with a beautiful Paprika '60 cab. Nice to see another get saved.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

Thanks for the love shown to the car and the kind words of encouragement. I would say 100% original paint. my guess based on the service booklet i found is that it has only had 3 to 4 owners from new. and i will have the original engine soon. This is probably the biggest project i have had in awhile but i am also excited about it as well but realistically wont get started on it til 2021.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

Nice find! That looks to be in pretty nice shape, very similar to the '70 I just bought. Love that color!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

You found a gem, congrats!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

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looks like the original engine that is still at her house. hoping to pick it up in the next week or so. Once i read the service booklet and saw the engine number i was like WOW!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

It just keeps getting better!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

i have all the service visits from the service booklet that came with the car. I was combing through some stuff last night. i posted the service bulletins in my gallery so as to not load up the photos here
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

It just keeps getting better!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

That's a nice looking survivor! and the dash looks great. I hope it comes with the door handles and the 60 only trim for the door window scrapers.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

Loren wrote:
That's a nice looking survivor! and the dash looks great. I hope it comes with the door handles and the 60 only trim for the door window scrapers.


Thank you Loren! I have interior and exterior door handles though yet to see if key works the exterior ones. I have tons of metal trim but not sure what they are yet. Tomorrow a Nor'Easter is gonna whip through here and since the garage is tight i wont be checking any time soon til it dries out and warms up. The only thing i have not seen is the 2 front grills for the nose.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

obus wrote:
Loren wrote:
That's a nice looking survivor! and the dash looks great. I hope it comes with the door handles and the 60 only trim for the door window scrapers.


Thank you Loren! I have interior and exterior door handles though yet to see if key works the exterior ones. I have tons of metal trim but not sure what they are yet. Tomorrow a Nor'Easter is gonna whip through here and since the garage is tight i wont be checking any time soon til it dries out and warms up. The only thing i have not seen is the 2 front grills for the nose.


The scrapers are not the problem, it’s finding the right rubber that’s a nightmare.
Do you have the jewel in the 60 crown, the elusive 60 only washer bottle?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey Reply with quote

Hope you can make active progress on it and get it finished and driveable. Would really enjoy seeing it up close at an upcoming "Aircooled Gathering" in Flanders, NJ. As others have mentioned, you have a bonus of many original parts.

Our Ghia friend Rbfara in New York also has a '60 Paprika Cabrio:
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