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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Picked this up from a gent on the Fakebook Marketplace. It is great because my turn signal stalk is taped together ghetto style so this will cover it!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

^^^ Cool find! I haven't had much success on FB marketplace. Maybe I just don't know how to navigate it that well Think
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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^^^ Cool find! I haven't had much success on FB marketplace. Maybe I just don't know how to navigate it that well Think


I suck too and its browse isnt so great. if i punch in karmann ghia i wind up getting all old vws after awhile. This was in one of the vw groups but he was selling through market place. I think he only like 10 of them and sold out fast!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

so Sunday the Ghia is getting a look over to see if he wants to do the work on it both body work and mechanically. I am really in no hurry to have it done so as long as he does the work properly and also corrects some of the bodywork that isnt up to my standards. then its all good. To be continued...

Oh and VW sent me another Birth Certificate for the Ghia. So 1 originally and 2 corrected with the confirmation that the engine is indeed the original one that came with the car(although currently not installed)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Your blinker stalk is a good find, together with the box. You will be installing it per one of the descriptions: "zur Zierde und Verstaerkung" is German for "for decoration and reinforcement". I bought a '65 Beetle rolling shell about 30 years ago that had this part already installed. I sold the car to a colleague at work who finished the assembly and drove it regularly, so I don't know how well it held up- but probably very well.

Do you have a photo of the 4th side, which would show the manufacturer? LIHA is probably from the first 2 letters of the founder's first and last name.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

67 Florida Deluxe wrote:
^^^ Cool find! I haven't had much success on FB marketplace. Maybe I just don't know how to navigate it that well Think


I don't even have a FB account! I've resisted for years and always liked Craigslist. Now it seems like FB might be the way to go.
I'm always late to the party! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Your blinker stalk is a good find, together with the box. You will be installing it per one of the descriptions: "zur Zierde und Verstaerkung" is German for "for decoration and reinforcement". I bought a '65 Beetle rolling shell about 30 years ago that had this part already installed. I sold the car to a colleague at work who finished the assembly and drove it regularly, so I don't know how well it held up- but probably very well.

Do you have a photo of the 4th side, which would show the manufacturer? LIHA is probably from the first 2 letters of the founder's first and last name.

I took pics of the 2 ends and they also had the LIHA on it.
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I don't even know if my turn signal stalk works or not yet but i will be using this and attaching it if it does! Thanks for the translation Rome!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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67 Florida Deluxe wrote:
^^^ Cool find! I haven't had much success on FB marketplace. Maybe I just don't know how to navigate it that well Think


I don't even have a FB account! I've resisted for years and always liked Craigslist. Now it seems like FB might be the way to go.
I'm always late to the party! Rolling Eyes


I was also a hold out for Craigslist but after talking to people about non VW stuff i decided to dive in and actually the 1st item and only item i sold was my 2014 CRV with 159k on it and needing some work for 8k right before the pandemic hit in Jan 2020. It helped me pay off my 2018 volvo v90cross country which is a big help for my bad back vs the honda but i digress. I bought a lawn jockey on there and this turn signal bling!!! I highly recommend Facebook marketplace.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Well the guy who was going to look at the Ghia had to bail today because his Wife is in the hospital with an intestinal infection. I think i can let him slide on that one. To be continued.....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.

And as much as i would like to use Newton Commercial i'm not sure if i want either oatmeal or charcoal carpet.

Then i bought the mats from Luis and ordered stone grey but not sure thats correct or not nor have i heard or received an email since the pay pal was charged back in Jan or Feb.

And to boot i'm still waiting for the car to be looked at to even determine if the man wants to restore it or not. I'm not in a hurry but i also don't want it to sit in the garage either.

Ok thought i would vent. The wife is going to want to hear my car complaints!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.


Thats SOP for Lenny, at least it was with my single experience with him.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.


Thats SOP for Lenny, at least it was with my single experience with him.


Yep not surprising.
All these guys take time, as long as they come through I wouldn’t fret too much. Most of them have more work than they know what to do with and figure if you can’t wait tonight luck. Sucks but that’s the way it it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.


Thats SOP for Lenny, at least it was with my single experience with him.


Yep not surprising.
All these guys take time, as long as they come through I wouldn’t fret too much. Most of them have more work than they know what to do with and figure if you can’t wait tonight luck. Sucks but that’s the way it it.


With the front seat covers for my bus he answered the phone first time and had them done lickety split. I guess i know that was the exception. I'll have to weigh out my options as far as carpet.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.


Thats SOP for Lenny, at least it was with my single experience with him.


Yep not surprising.
All these guys take time, as long as they come through I wouldn’t fret too much. Most of them have more work than they know what to do with and figure if you can’t wait tonight luck. Sucks but that’s the way it it.


With the front seat covers for my bus he answered the phone first time and had them done lickety split. I guess i know that was the exception. I'll have to weigh out my options as far as carpet.


Its when the work isnt done that he doesnt call back.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Getting frustrated. Weeks without a call back from Lenny Copp. 2 calls were made to him as well as an email. Nothing.


Thats SOP for Lenny, at least it was with my single experience with him.


Yep not surprising.
All these guys take time, as long as they come through I wouldn’t fret too much. Most of them have more work than they know what to do with and figure if you can’t wait tonight luck. Sucks but that’s the way it it.


With the front seat covers for my bus he answered the phone first time and had them done lickety split. I guess i know that was the exception. I'll have to weigh out my options as far as carpet.


Its when the work isnt done that he doesnt call back.


Oh wow. Maybe he misunderstood my messages then. I'm going to ring him and send one more email next week and if i don't hear back then i will either go Newton or see if my upholstery shop knows where to go for german style carpeting. He's worked on enough classic and sports cars to know by now i'm sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

If you are looking for an upholstery, I was able to find some german square weave carpet at relicate in upstate NY. https://relicate.com/ Bought a yard for my BMW's parcel shelf and it is very nice but expensive. I think another source is GAHH in California, but I have not ordered from them. https://gahh.com/interior-trim-materials

Not sure if ether have something that matches 60's VW pattern, I was looking for BMW carpeting and that is all I could find.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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If you are looking for an upholstery, I was able to find some german square weave carpet at relicate in upstate NY. https://relicate.com/ Bought a yard for my BMW's parcel shelf and it is very nice but expensive. I think another source is GAHH in California, but I have not ordered from them. https://gahh.com/interior-trim-materials

Not sure if ether have something that matches 60's VW pattern, I was looking for BMW carpeting and that is all I could find.

Max


Thanks Max! saw some stuff on there already! Appreciate the links
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

while my Wife slept in, i was able to get some warm weather to vacuum out the frunk and interior and clean some brightwork

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

Looking good!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" Reply with quote

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Looking good!


Thanks! I was just happy to get outside and enjoy the weather. And just now, a VW buddy was on his way to his Moms and had to pass by and he worked the throttle in the engine compartment and shot some starter fluid in it and it ran briefly and strong before leaking oil from the oil cooler seals!
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