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leoasman
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Didn’t want to start tearing into the squareback, so I HAD to get another to do a full project on. This is all very addictive! So far the tear down has gone smoothly. Pans are toast and a few rust spots on the body. Looking forward to learning a bunch along the way.
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andybla
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:04 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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the box of pandora has been opened  |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:45 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| andybla wrote: |
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Yup. It does look fairly straight though. 
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galencurrington
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:50 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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The rabbit hole just gets deeper and usually deeper than you think but it's all worth it in the long run. I'm doing a pan off restore on a 69 auto square right now. A pan off is really not that bad you can get to everything a lot easier.
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leoasman
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Location: San Diego
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| I’m definitely looking forward to it! |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:44 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| The rabbit hole just gets deeper and usually deeper than you think but it's all worth it in the long run. I'm doing a pan off restore on a 69 auto square right now. A pan off is really not that bad you can get to everything a lot easier. |
Yup, and it allows you to get to everything, even stuff you didn't plan on. I've done a couple over the years, and really it's the only way to go.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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leoasman
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:11 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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Most of the tear down is complete. I’ve bagged and labeled all the misc bolts and screws and took lots of reference pics. Like you guys said, I’ve found more rust than expected, but I’m pushing forward. Now I need to build a cart for the body and get it off.
My question is this. After I get all the screws and bolts off what is left to disconnect. I got the steering coupler disconnected since I didn’t pull the column off yet. The brake lines are disconnected in the front. No engine dipstick. Anything I’m missing?
Thanks,
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andybla
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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Looks not that bad in the pictures.
If everything is loose, all that is left are the pan bolts and also 2 front and 2 rear around the suspension
in the front, under the gas tank next at shock absorber position
in the back, just behind the cross, next to the wheel wells |
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Clatter
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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Whoo! Brings back some memories!
Make sure to take out the shifter - it seems to hang things up.
You go brother.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| heater and throttle cables? |
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leoasman
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| andybla wrote: |
Looks not that bad in the pictures.
If everything is loose, all that is left are the pan bolts and also 2 front and 2 rear around the suspension
in the front, under the gas tank next at shock absorber position
in the back, just behind the cross, next to the wheel wells |
Thanks Andy! I’ve gotta work this weekend, but I’m hoping to tackle the removal next week! |
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leoasman
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| heater and throttle cables? |
I’ll double check that, thanks! The engine was out when I got it. I’ve got it sitting in the garage at the moment. |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:05 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| heater and throttle cables? |
Speedometer cable? Brake rez hoses? Brake light switches?
Here's where ALL of the pan bolts are.
I hope this helps.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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leoasman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| heater and throttle cables? |
Speedometer cable? Brake rez hoses? Brake light switches?
Here's where ALL of the pan bolts are.
I hope this helps. |
Thanks Bob! I’ve got all that disconnected. I think I’m ready to go. I actually copied that pic from another time you posted it. Can I ask what book that diagram comes from?
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W1K1
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:24 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| heater and throttle cables? |
Speedometer cable? Brake rez hoses? Brake light switches?
Here's where ALL of the pan bolts are.
I hope this helps. |
Thanks Bob! I’ve got all that disconnected. I think I’m ready to go. I actually copied that pic from another time you posted it. Can I ask what book that diagram comes from?
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It's out of the big Blue Bentley manual.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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leoasman
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How do you guys accomplish drilling out tight spot welds? I’m trying to remove the cross brace/kick plate and cant seem to figure out how to make it happen. It’s such a tight area and I can’t get the drill in the right spot? Any tips
Thanks,
Leo
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:00 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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Just weld in 1.5" repair pieces along the bottoms.
Not really necessary to gouge up the tunnel & heater channels for a complete kick panel replacement, if you even have skills to duplicate it?
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andybla
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:20 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| maybe from the backside, and if it's a really hard to reach spot, i just take the little multi tool and cut away around the spot weld or grind away the spot weld with a dremel grinder |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: Re: 68 fastback |
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| andybla wrote: |
| maybe from the backside, and if it's a really hard to reach spot, i just take the little multi tool and cut away around the spot weld or grind away the spot weld with a dremel grinder |
Yup, this is one of those areas that unless your OCD won't let go, it doesn't have to be perfect. Maybe even sacrifice a small part to keep the larger part whole. It really depends on how visible that spot is.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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