Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts New!  See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Cretodecristo
Samba Member


Joined: December 09, 2020
Posts: 42
Location: South Carolina
Cretodecristo is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:07 pm    Post subject: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Today, I received my first beetle. A 1967 Sedan that I’m considering naming Betty. She needs a lot of work. This will be my first total restore. I rebuilt an engine or two back in my teen years (a few decades ago), but I never touched body work.

I wanted to post some pictures here. Hopefully, she will make it back on the road without driving me bankrupt.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Body and pan match!
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


It has a ‘68 engine in it. Perhaps after I get her up and running, I’ll look for a ‘67. First, I need to get her back on the road!
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Her interior isn’t in horrible shape. Wonder what surprises await me.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


There she is! Already know she needs new floor pans, heater channels, spare tire tray, and luggage compartment. Thankfully, the firewall is in good shape!

Now, if you will excuse me, I’m heading out to the garage.
_________________
Still trying to get a Beetle on the road. So what am I doing here? Procrastinating!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
anthracitedub
Samba Member


Joined: June 20, 2007
Posts: 3152
Location: Michigan
anthracitedub is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cretodecristo
Samba Member


Joined: December 09, 2020
Posts: 42
Location: South Carolina
Cretodecristo is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

anthracitedub wrote:
She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts.


Crispy is a very good word! I am curious, though... why suggest she become a donor car? I realize she’s not an ideal first full restoration. Since I know how to weld (not well, but I know how) and have a TIG, I am thinking that with time and effort, she could be coaxed back onto the road.

Is my head too far into the clouds?
_________________
Still trying to get a Beetle on the road. So what am I doing here? Procrastinating!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rcroane Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: January 03, 2013
Posts: 1746
Location: Springfield, Virginia
rcroane is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Cretodecristo wrote:
anthracitedub wrote:
She’s crispy😳 might consider another candidate and use that one for parts.


Crispy is a very good word! I am curious, though... why suggest she become a donor car? I realize she’s not an ideal first full restoration. Since I know how to weld (not well, but I know how) and have a TIG, I am thinking that with time and effort, she could be coaxed back onto the road.

Is my head too far into the clouds?


All it takes is time, talent, patience and money Smile
_________________
'65 Sunroof Bug
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Airstream65
Samba Member


Joined: January 28, 2019
Posts: 115
Location: Tulsa,Ok
Airstream65 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

That’s quite a project! Nothing $15 or 20k won’t fix. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
67ctbug
Samba Member


Joined: January 24, 2016
Posts: 3280
Location: CT
67ctbug is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Matching body and pan, nice! Looks like a good project!
_________________
'67 Beetle L41
'71 Westfalia (sold) Sad
'71 Westfalia (sold)
'74 Westfalia
‘69 Plymouth
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote:
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". Laughing

mukluk wrote:
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Twitter Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
baz76
Samba Member


Joined: October 13, 2010
Posts: 759
Location: IRELAND
baz76 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Surely better candidates available in Southern California?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rcroane Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: January 03, 2013
Posts: 1746
Location: Springfield, Virginia
rcroane is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

baz76 wrote:
Surely better candidates available in Southern California?


That's a long way from South Carolina Shocked
_________________
'65 Sunroof Bug
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Pruneman99
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2012
Posts: 3563
Location: Oceanside
Pruneman99 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

rcroane wrote:
baz76 wrote:
Surely better candidates available in Southern California?


That's a long way from South Carolina Shocked


$500 transport fee to save $5,000 in rust repair. Might want to think about it.

It would make a nice pipe buggy though.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
anthracitedub
Samba Member


Joined: June 20, 2007
Posts: 3152
Location: Michigan
anthracitedub is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Well, you mentioned total restoration. To me, I would select a better candidate. Just then sight of the rust on the drivers heater channel is a warning. It’s fixable but you’ll have a ton of hours and 2 tons of money wrapped up in it. Yes, it’s a complete and mostly original looking car, just not a good restoration candidate. Once you get into all the attention that this car is gonna need you’ll see the reality of it. I’d at least source a better body shell.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
baz76
Samba Member


Joined: October 13, 2010
Posts: 759
Location: IRELAND
baz76 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

rcroane wrote:
baz76 wrote:
Surely better candidates available in Southern California?


That's a long way from South Carolina Shocked


Laughing should've gone to spec savers

However it's even further to Ireland yet it wouldn't stop me seeking a better car from California rather than dealing with that level of rust.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Danwvw
Samba Member


Joined: July 31, 2012
Posts: 8630
Location: Oregon Coast
Danwvw is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Looks pretty complete! With the Steering and Turnsignal switch and all pretty nice! Too bad someone took the original oil bath Air cleaner away. I had a 67 and it's definitely a very strong nice year to get with the fully evolved single port and trans too. Maybe find one someone has the body already done on but with no extra parts for it. Either way works, What did you have in mind for the engine?
_________________
1971 Sundial Camper, Building a 74 mm Stroke by 88 mm bore with stock heads? And 1960 Beetle And 1679cc W-100 & Zeniths!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Facebook Twitter Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cretodecristo
Samba Member


Joined: December 09, 2020
Posts: 42
Location: South Carolina
Cretodecristo is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Danwvw wrote:
Looks pretty complete! With the Steering and Turnsignal switch and all pretty nice! Too bad someone took the original oil bath Air cleaner away. I had a 67 and it's definitely a very strong nice year to get with the fully evolved single port and trans too. Maybe find one someone has the body already done on but with no extra parts for it. Either way works, What did you have in mind for the engine?


It is complete. That is why I bought it. The guy who sold it to me added the oil bath air cleaner.

Today, I removed everything in the interior. At a minimum, she needs new floor pans, heater channels, luggage shelf, and spare tire well. The bottom of the passenger side door is rusted through. I saw the need for patches in one of the rear wheel wells and along the back apron. I guess that is the price of living in swampy South Carolina! Here are pics of what I found:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


So, yeah... sizing up this project, it is going to be a challenge!

As for the engine, my plan is to take it out and get it running. Because I wanted to make her a daily driver, my original plan was to work on the motor, no matter what she looked like. Besides, I have a 15 year old son who needs to learn how a motor works and how to keep it running. I have already ordered an engine gasket kit. I was a bit disappointed that it was a ‘68 engine. It also has a 30 PICT-2 carb and an aftermarket distributor without a vacuum advance. I do not know if they make a good pair yet.

On a positive note: I found an ash tray that goes in the back seat door panel! The emergency brake works! And the clutch seems to engage. I was able to put it into gear so my sons would stop moving it around the garage. Hahaha!

I’m at the point where I am ready to start separating the body from the pan. Tomorrow, I planned on welding supports to the pillars. We have an unused bed frame that will serve nicely!
_________________
Still trying to get a Beetle on the road. So what am I doing here? Procrastinating!


Last edited by Cretodecristo on Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
caleb0101
Samba Member


Joined: August 26, 2014
Posts: 515
Location: Bristol Connecticut
caleb0101 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

don't let everyone here that lives where there is no rust or has the money to buy and ship a car from across the country change your mind on fixing it, my 67 was way worse than yours when i got it and fixing it was half the fun of it. you can always do what i did and just fix the structural, mechanical, and electrical stuff and leave the rest for later.
here's what my looks like now
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

compared to what it looked like when i got it
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

they are all worth fixing.
_________________
Ruby red 1967 beetle sedan with a 2021cc
1967 beetle sedan baja project
April 60 euro spec ragtop beetle with a 1641cc
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
riverart
Samba Member


Joined: September 20, 2017
Posts: 37
Location: Pomona
riverart is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

I live in So Cal and all I can say is Betty, if that what she will be called is a beauty. If you can handle it, I say go for it! I also have 67 I call Pepe!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
joey1320
Samba Member


Joined: September 12, 2006
Posts: 2255
Location: Cleveland, OH
joey1320 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

That's an insane amount of rust. I appreciate you wanting to tackle it but man, that's going to take a crazy high amount of time. Money too but money may not be relevant here. Time is the main thing.

Best of luck Cool
_________________
**1971 Super Project
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AutoMechanic
Samba Member


Joined: December 28, 2019
Posts: 381
Location: Roanoke Virginia
AutoMechanic is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Great project find. All of them are worth fixing in my opinion. Can’t wait to see how it turns out. Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Dibaltic
Samba Member


Joined: May 06, 2007
Posts: 537
Location: Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
Dibaltic is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

Nice project, looking forward to seeing the progress
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Zundfolge1432 Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: June 13, 2004
Posts: 11034

Zundfolge1432 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

AutoMechanic wrote:
Great project find. All of them are worth fixing in my opinion. Can’t wait to see how it turns out. Smile


If this person had all the tools, a fully equipped shop and the experience it would still take hundreds of hours to repair. Never mentioned in these heroic efforts to save a car is any standards or approved methods which insures structural integrity. What they end up with is a collection of scab patches haphazardly welded together. Is it safe, is it as strong as original?

There is a standard to go by in auto body repair, it’s called ICAR, look it up. The only cars worth saving with heroic efforts such as this would be rare low production models or those with interesting provenance. So not counting the time if you value it at zero the parts alone would bust any budget. In the end you’ll have a patched together common late model VW and a story to tell. Take lots of pictures. You might get hard luck trophy at the shows. In reality you could buy several rust free cars for what it would take to save that one. Does it make any sense?

Here https://info.i-car.com/about-us


Last edited by Zundfolge1432 on Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:38 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
aa390392
Samba Member


Joined: March 28, 2007
Posts: 2915
Location: So.Cal
aa390392 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Getting my “new” ‘67 Beetle on the road Reply with quote

What Zun says above........I guess Im going to say this, that car is a money pit, college fund /masters degree for your 15 year old. FIND ANOTHER CAR.
_________________
Learning to bite my lip.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2020, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB