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HotStreetVw Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2004 Posts: 871 Location: Wild West
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Tell us more about what it takes _________________ 4inBhore
50 Split - 2724cc NA. Haltech injected
62 Notchback - 2542cc Turbo WIP |
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Pat D Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2004 Posts: 414
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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HotStreetVw wrote: |
Tell us more about what it takes |
Allot of dedication and the will to be the best is what sets records in Pro Stock. _________________ Pat, Im too fast slow me downs! |
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HotStreetVw Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2004 Posts: 871 Location: Wild West
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Pat D wrote: |
HotStreetVw wrote: |
Tell us more about what it takes |
Allot of dedication and the will to be the best is what sets records in Pro Stock. |
Oh I bet. I’ve worked my ass of and I’m half as fast. _________________ 4inBhore
50 Split - 2724cc NA. Haltech injected
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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HotStreetVw wrote: |
Guys, were talking about a 1700lb car with 200-220 ft-lbs of torque. It doesn’t need a 10” ring and pinion.
When you consider the cost, the weight, the work involved in sticking it between the frame horns it’s all pretty foolish.
If he was building a 500hp turbo engine, well ok, but he’s not. |
Exactly....
Even Pat isn't running a Mendeola in his Pro-Stock. A Type 1 S/A with a spool is going to have the least mass to turn, and a Mendeola with 930/934 joints the most.
While I would like to hear how to build a fast Pro-Stock from Pat, I thought this thread was about a NHRA Super Stock racer? IRS drivelines are way simpler to get joints/axles that will live to 300hp. I would be building a Type 2 with an IRS suspension. |
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Gurn Blanston Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2014 Posts: 339 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Pat D wrote: |
HotStreetVw wrote: |
Tell us more about what it takes |
Allot of dedication and the will to be the best is what sets records in Pro Stock. |
I'm not interested in setting the world on fire, or more accurately, I'm not interested in paying what it costs to set the world on fire.
NHRA Super Stock racing is handicap racing with breakout rules. As long as I can reliably run under the 11.60 index, I'm good to go.
The only time I'd face a heads-up race with no breakout rule in effect, would be if the ladder handed me another SS/VX car, which would be astronomically unlikely. And if that happens, it happens- I've won and lost races for plenty of strange reasons... |
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Gurn Blanston Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2014 Posts: 339 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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RLR REV-6 single disc clutch and no clutch management system? |
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TomSimon Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 749
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Gurn Blanston wrote: |
I'm not interested in setting the world on fire, or more accurately, I'm not interested in paying what it costs to set the world on fire.
NHRA Super Stock racing is handicap racing with breakout rules. As long as I can reliably run under the 11.60 index, I'm good to go.
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You seem to be the only one on this thread that understands that fact, LOL
edited, as to not waste bandwidth, LOL _________________ 2-time NASA Pro Racing Champion, Bonneville 130 Club and 150 Club Memeber, BRS Pro Gas racer
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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While I do enjoy hearing from actual SS/VX racers, Gurn hasn’t been on the site since March, so it looks like your info may be falling on deaf ears. |
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carl nolen Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Dallas,Tx
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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If I where building a VW drag car today, I would start with a prepped bus box and build the car around it. Yes, a type 1 box will work but you have to find the sweet spot in the clutch as not to blast the r&p. You will spend a lot of money on a bus or type 1 box. However, the bus box has a lot better r&p and will last longer. Build your car or buy one first, put a drag motor in it and weight it. That way, you will know what size of motor to build. Most drag cars are between 1550 and 1700 lbs. Mine weighs 1640 lbs (type 1 box) with me in it. With me having a 2180, I'm a little heavy as 1600 w/driver is the target weight for that engine size for VX. _________________ It's not a ride without OXIDE |
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TomSimon Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 749
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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[email protected] wrote: |
While I do enjoy hearing from actual SS/VX racers, Gurn hasn’t been on the site since March, so it looks like your info may be falling on deaf ears. |
I'm regretting coming on here again... _________________ 2-time NASA Pro Racing Champion, Bonneville 130 Club and 150 Club Memeber, BRS Pro Gas racer |
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Stripped66 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2005 Posts: 3467 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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TomSimon wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
While I do enjoy hearing from actual SS/VX racers, Gurn hasn’t been on the site since March, so it looks like your info may be falling on deaf ears. |
I'm regretting coming on here again... |
Let's remember that, unlike Facebook, this forum remains an easily-searchable repository for technical information.
Your contributions may be useful to somebody, if not many, even if the OP doesn't come back to see it. _________________
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Bodacious wrote: |
Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor. |
I don't think electrickery works that way |
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Bad bug Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2006 Posts: 1119 Location: Jamaica
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Good day Tom,
I am looking at this comment you made below, when you say bus box are you talking the 091 from 1983 - 1991 with the wider gears or the 002 with the car gears internal.
Ohio Tom wrote: |
Most run bus or Mediola boxes. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Baseline NHRA SS/VX type engine combo? |
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Stripped66 wrote: |
TomSimon wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
While I do enjoy hearing from actual SS/VX racers, Gurn hasn’t been on the site since March, so it looks like your info may be falling on deaf ears. |
I'm regretting coming on here again... |
Let's remember that, unlike Facebook, this forum remains an easily-searchable repository for technical information.
Your contributions may be useful to somebody, if not many, even if the OP doesn't come back to see it. |
Tom, I apologize if my comment came off disrespectful, or offensive.
Stripped66 is correct that everything here gets archived for everyone, so even though the person you are quoting/replying to has moved on, your info will be helpful to someone else. There are a lot of knowledgeable members with correct solutions to someone’s issues that have left the site from disagreements with those less knowledgeable with incorrect solutions. I have been posting less, and less from certain family commitments that allow me a fraction of the time on the site I once had. Nothing is more frustrating to me than to take my limited time to help someone I don’t even know with a solution to their problem, because it is an exact one I have solved many times, only to have them never come back to the site giving up. I’m sure your time is valuable, and there are many on this site that would like to hear your experiences. Myself included. I simply would like you to get the most out of your time on the site helping someone “more receptive”. |
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