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c-rad Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:04 pm Post subject: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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I just picked up a set of drilled drums, am looking for ideas of other parts I can lighten for the old school look. Or if anybody has any lightened parts, backing plates, shift shaft, front upper trailing arms etc...
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BFB Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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i had a mazzone railbuggy that had rear drums drilled like that, i always wondered how the held up. i mean obviously that rail had been around for a while and still had the drums.. but how much action it saw? i dunno?
same buggy also had some of the tubes drilled too _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5417 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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Looks like a great way to have drum brakes fade really fast. No meat left on the friction surface. They would heat soak very quickly. Also looks like a great way to crack a drum. Those wide five drums were prone to cracking starting at the oil weep hole. Drilling it like that only increases the number of points a fatal crack could start from.
And all to save what? A few pounds per drum?
My opinion... avoid. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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halfassleatherworks Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2018 Posts: 641 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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Sand Drags only _________________ Halfass Leatherworks*****GOT LEATHER Made to order Leather crafts, you can find us on that face book thing
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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regardless, im impressed at the symmetry they were able to achieve in drilling the holes... _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12744 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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Show queen. You wouldn't actually put your life on the line driving with those! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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oprn wrote: |
Show queen. You wouldn't actually put your life on the line driving with those! |
how do you know that? I probably would and not question it. ive driven alot of deathtraps and wrecked shit that shouldn't be on the road. pretty sure ive driven without any brakes at all and just had to down shift and then e- brake to completely stop _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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In life, there are many who believe that "cool" is spelled with an 'f'! _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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Someone did a beautiful job of machining those drums. Then polished and chrome plated them. The chrome plating weakens the iron. Makes it more brittle.
All those lightening holes are great for letting sand out of the brakes. And just as good for letting sand IN, which is not good. The holes dramatically reduce braking contact area Some holes are OK. So many big holes not good.
All-in all...I agree with oprn. Show queen stuff. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
SoCalBajas Member
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Wulfthang Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2018 Posts: 719 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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Setting stuff like that up for drilling isn't hard. Use a lathe with an indexer to mark the circles and a set of flat calipers to find the exact measurement. Then center punch the holes.
That chroming almost looks like Hard Chrome. Either way, I'd cook it for several hours in the oven to bake the nitrogen out to keep it from being brittle.
Yeah, they're pretty but I'd never actually put them on to use. I think they'd blow up if they were hit hard. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12744 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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richardcraineum wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Show queen. You wouldn't actually put your life on the line driving with those! |
how do you know that? I probably would and not question it. ive driven alot of deathtraps and wrecked shit that shouldn't be on the road. pretty sure ive driven without any brakes at all and just had to down shift and then e- brake to completely stop |
Absolutely! So have I but I knew I had no brakes and drove accordingly and only until repairs could be made.
These drums on the other hand would give the driver the impression that they HAD brakes and then fail at a very critical moment! Ya! That's something you would put on your Ex's car to avoid alimony payments, then send her out into 5 o'clock rush hour traffic! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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BFB Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Lightened Sandrail parts? |
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oprn wrote: |
richardcraineum wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Show queen. You wouldn't actually put your life on the line driving with those! |
how do you know that? I probably would and not question it. ive driven alot of deathtraps and wrecked shit that shouldn't be on the road. pretty sure ive driven without any brakes at all and just had to down shift and then e- brake to completely stop |
Absolutely! So have I but I knew I had no brakes and drove accordingly and only until repairs could be made.
These drums on the other hand would give the driver the impression that they HAD brakes and then fail at a very critical moment! Ya! That's something you would put on your Ex's car to avoid alimony payments, then send her out into 5 o'clock rush hour traffic! |
i cant disagree with that logic ! id say especially the last part but im afraid Murphy's law would kick in, ol lady die in a car crash, johny law somehow find this post, and off to prison i go... heheh _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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