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bobbysheets Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:09 pm Post subject: Emergency break question |
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Does anyone know what size pin or have a part number for the pin that goes into the emergency brake to hold the handle shaft and the upright arm together? I have a Bentley and it named the part but not a part number. I looked up the part without any luck. TIA
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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almost every product sold that was designed to be serviced has parts manuals and fiches that show parts. Learn how to use them if you will be owning a 50 year old VW bus. There are different parts for different years so not every year uses the same part, although I suspect that part is common between years. Here are some links to such sites online. The part you probably want is on fiche page 58 and is likely part #20 which is N 013 239 1. You also need part number 21 to hold it. Next, if a part number is not in the fiche it is because VW discontinued it a long time ago. They remove numbers when the part is discontinued, so sometimes you have to look at older models to see if they show the part when earlier copies of the parts manuals were printed. Last, learn who the folks are who sell good quality used parts. Many times you can give them a description of the part and they can get it for you. I like using classified here on the Samba, Ken Madsen at TheBusco, Chris at BustedBus, Avery's Air Cooled, and Interstate VW parts in Lake Elsinore CA.
Here are links to fiches. Learn to use them.
Click on part to see parts number on this site. Mostly late bays:
http://www.michaelknappmann.de/bulli/michaelk/vw_bus_d/fiche/t200100.html
http://www.jerseylooker.com/FicheDump/LateBaywindow/LateBay-Main.html
http://www.jerseylooker.com/FicheDump/EarlyBaywindow/EarlyBay-Main.html _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12722 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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Robbie - that may be the one that the bracket lever swivels on instead of the pull rod to bracket lever. Part number #10. I think he wants item #20.
http://www.michaelknappmann.de/bulli/michaelk/vw_bus_d/fiche/t205800.html _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12722 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2205 Location: seattle
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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[quote="airschooled"]Oops- yes! Second result
^ that may be the anchor pin for the pivot arm at the shoe, held by the horseshoe clamp. The one up above has a groove on each side for a retainer & is larger
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3898 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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Why is it that so many bus owners asking about parts here fail to even mention what model year they have?
Are they under the impression that all busses and parts were the same?
It seems the part in question is #N 13 239 1 for 68-71 bus, held in place with cotter pin and washer, and
#N 23 500 1 for '72 (and later?) bus, held in place with 6 mm "safety clip" #N 23 624 1. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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bobbysheets Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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I’m sorry I failed to add that my bus is a 74’ and that I wasn’t aware of this fiche parts list. The part I was googling is called a ratchet rod pin not the lower pin held in by two e-clips. Thanks for the feedback and help. I’ll be sure to do more searching before I ask for help next time.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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bobbysheets wrote: |
I’m sorry I failed to add that my bus is a 74’ and that I wasn’t aware of this fiche parts list. The part I was googling is called a ratchet rod pin not the lower pin held in by two e-clips. Thanks for the feedback and help. I’ll be sure to do more searching before I ask for help next time.
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It isn't that we are mean and demand you do more searching. It is trying to give owners the tools to be successful with their bus. 40 years ago they could walk into a dealer and order the part. Today, a lot of times it is often whether you can be successful finding a specific part - or a picture of how it is supposed to be put together. Same for a repair. Most of us find that we often spend more time trying to find a GOOD part than doing the actual repair - especially when we are just starting out. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3898 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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The early and late parts are very similar. Probably a hardware store 5/16 clevis pin, perhaps
modified a bit, would work in all. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50348
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Emergency break question |
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Lots of foreign made tractors are sold in this country and I would bet more than one of them uses a pin that would work here. A local place that sells and/or repairs farm equipment might be able to help you out. |
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