Engine decisions for 60 beetle

[Kthomas]

I have a 60 beetle that I’m trying to get running. The 36 original engine is toast.
I just bought a 70 parts car with a running engine. Can someone identify what engine I may have. The problem is there is no serial and it looks to be on the up and up . In other words not modified.
I would like to use this if possible with my split case. I understand the need for trim alterations and flywheel clearances. It has no discernible play in crank at the pulley.
I have another 1200 but although it’s not stuck it has been sitting a long long time. It has the smaller flywheel
One question other than engine size is. Exactly which clutch I should use with larger flywheel and split case transmission.
I thought about buying the bus nos cone and hockey stick but there wasn’t anything wrong with the split case and I’m going for whatever is simple.
Thanks

[zwillisgosteli]

I ran a 200mm clutch with a later 12v flywheel in a '62 I used to have, and I just clearanced the bell housing to accommodate the larger flywheel.

[TinCanFab]

1960 is a one year only front transmission mount setup. Leave it alone while you are running a split case transmission. The Bus parts swap is mainly for 59 and earlier pans. You will want to search on here and read up about the 1960 only stuff. Your best option may be to buy a new 61 and newer mount and weld it onto the torsion housing.

The engine looks like a common 1500/1600 single port. Run it, but never without the hoses missing from the fan shroud to heater boxes. It's overheating the heads. Seal up all the holes in the tins and fan shroud, also overheating the heads. Pull the shroud and cylinder tins to inspect for rat nests and other stuff clogging up the cooling air and fan. Because, you guessed it, it causes the engine to run hot.
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[Kthomas]

It presently has a 28 pict carburetor. Would a 1500 or 1600 have come with one of those. I thought it would be at least a 30.

[Eric&Barb]

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[mukluk]

The later style tinware, 12v generator, and small cap SVA distributor all point toward the engine most likely being a 1500/1600 single port engine. The 28 PICT carburetor bolts straight onto 1300/1500/1600 single port manifolds, so that one feature alone wouldn't sway the identification in my opinion. Be aware the old split case transaxle isn't generally considered to be robust enough when paired with engines with more power than the old 25 and 36hp mills.

You can install a 40hp 180mm/109 tooth flywheel on that later engine if you don't feel like messing with clearancing your split case bellhousing. The stock 180mm clutch and pressure plate works ok with this combo in a Bug if in good shape. If you're hard set on using the larger 200mm clutch, there are also 200mm/109 tooth flywheels made for the earlier Type 2 that'll work for you. Keep in mind you'll need to use a compatible starter for either of these flywheels.
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[Kthomas]

I suppose if it is a 15 or 1600 engine a 28 pict would be too small or could it have come with that ?
Here is a couple pics of my car at present

[Kthomas]

I hate sanding filler.

[Eric&Barb]

[Kthomas]

So, it could be a 1500 or ? I guess the only way to know for sure since there isn’t a serial is the pull a head and measure the piston. I’m planning on pulling the engine within a few weeks ( maybe ) 😬

[Eric&Barb]

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[Kthomas]

There way a lot of play in the 36 hp crank. The crank itself was shot as well as everything else. I suppose I could have the cases line bored with oversized shells or ?. Either way right now I’m all about quick fixes because I am close to burnout on this car. I have tried to keep the rest of the car as close to stock as possible as well as not cutting corners on restoration methods . I have the original 36 engine and can always rebuild it later. I’m planning on leaving the split case an grinding it out . I will be gentle with it. I’m also planning on going to 12 volts. (Sacrilege I know )
I may never finish sanding. I would have thought polyester glaze would be easier to sand than regular filler but this shite is hard as a rock. 🤪

[Kthomas]

Can anyone identify this engine ? I’ve always thought it was a 1200 but I’m not sure . As you can see it looks to have a D at the beginning and an X at the end. I can’t figure it out from the serial number charts.

[Kthomas]

Ok
I think it is a recycle engine ? Maybe a replacement as i think it has a recycle symbol and the X at the end. I just found this info at the bottom of the serial number page. It’s anybody’s guess what displacement ? 🤪

[Eric&Barb]

Circular arrow symbol means recycled, and the original engine number has been milled off. thus the kind of cartouche shape the present number is inset into.
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