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flobar00
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 Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:01 am Post subject: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| Hi - I'm doing body off restoration of 73 Ghia. I'm in process of replacing the pans and have them fitted, but the jack points off of old pan are really bad. I've tried most suppliers and CI is only one that seems to carry part but they are not available until the end of the month. Can anyone suggest another source? I'm not too keen on used as the ones I have looked at are worse than mine. Thanks in advance for your reading my request. |
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c21darrel
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flobar00
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| Thanks for the response and I did check classified first, but I would prefer new if available. |
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sputnick60
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flobar00
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:33 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| Thanks for everyone who responded. After calling all around the country (and Europe), I did find a pair at SoCal Imports for a very reasonable price. I looked at multiple used parts and they were as bad as my current rusted out ones. I also found out that CIP1 is due to receive a new shipment of parts including jack points near the middle of the month. |
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flobar00
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:21 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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I thought I might share my progress with our Ghia. So far we have split the body from from the pan, built a couple of rotisseries for both the body and the wishbone, build engine stand yoke and removed and mounted engine on stand, cut out the rotted pans, fitted new ones with temp cleco clamps, secured a rear quarter panel from GREAT guy in SF and lots of other small stuff. Right now, we are fabricating new jack points for the pans as the ones I got from SoCal were not at all like the ones on the vehicle and they seem to be impossible to find except uses which look almost as bad as my originals. I've included a few pictures below and would as always appreciate the keen eyes and expertise of the Samba crowd if you have suggestions or comments.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:30 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Nice project. You have plenty of work ahead of you. Looking forward to following your progress. Any pictures of what it looked like before the work started?
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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flobar00
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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I don't have any good ones of the original shape but this gives a good idea where we are starting from. This is removal of body from the pan with the Ghia body removal attachment.
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Wow! Lots of fun ahead for sure. Do you have a patent pending on the "Ghia Body Removal Tool"? 
Welcome to TheSamba. You will get lots of encouragement from this community.
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Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Yeah, where do I get one of those Body Removal Tools??? I think I can find a lot of use for that!!
Look forward to watching your postings and progress!
Jeff
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1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold
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Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight= |
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m j moore
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| It sure does look similar right down to the rust |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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I haven't often seen this much rust above the rear wheel like this one has. It sort of looks like it could have been a Vermont car. We use ridiculous amounts of road salt here.
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Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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obus 
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flobar00
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:39 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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I have a question for those that have done body off restorations on a ghia. What are your thoughts about cracking into the tunnel on the wishbone to replace the fuel line and inspect other items contained there? How difficult is the process? If I proceed with the process, can someone point me to some topics where this has been discussed?
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Ron |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| flobar00 wrote: |
I have a question for those that have done body off restorations on a ghia. What are your thoughts about cracking into the tunnel on the wishbone to replace the fuel line and inspect other items contained there? How difficult is the process? If I proceed with the process, can someone point me to some topics where this has been discussed?
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Ron |
I’ve never done it, that some major surgery. I suppose if your conduits are rotten you have no choice, but there are easier ways to check condition. You can see most of it through the various opening in the tunnel like through the shifter, Ebrake, etc holes.
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
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flobar00
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:50 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Have you ever replaced a fuel line just through the inspection holes? Is that possible?
Thanks.
Ron |
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:07 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Have you ever replaced a fuel line just through the inspection holes? Is that possible?
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Ron |
I'm sure some will have done that. However, when I had to make the decision I opted for taking a new fuel line back along the tunnel (inside the car) on the opposite side as the rear brake lines. It's secure and I think, safer than experiencing an undetected fuel leak INSIDE the tunnel. (I could so easily have burnt my whole house down.)
You're at the beginning of a journey those of us who have completed ours would like to take with you: We are suffering from withdrawal symptoms. So please keep up the work and the posts.
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:11 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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Have you ever replaced a fuel line just through the inspection holes? Is that possible?
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Ron |
I'm sure some will have done that. However, when I had to make the decision I opted for taking a new fuel line back along the tunnel (inside the car) on the opposite side as the rear brake lines. It's secure and I think, safer than experiencing an undetected fuel leak INSIDE the tunnel. (I could so easily have burnt my whole house down.)
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:46 am Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| flobar00 wrote: |
Have you ever replaced a fuel line just through the inspection holes? Is that possible?
Thanks.
Ron |
I'm sure some will have done that. However, when I had to make the decision I opted for taking a new fuel line back along the tunnel (inside the car) on the opposite side as the rear brake lines. It's secure and I think, safer than experiencing an undetected fuel leak INSIDE the tunnel. (I could so easily have burnt my whole house down.) |
That was the recommended factory replacement procedure.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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crocteau
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: 73 Ghia Convertible Restoration |
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| flobar00 wrote: |
Have you ever replaced a fuel line just through the inspection holes? Is that possible?
Thanks.
Ron |
I'm sure some will have done that. However, when I had to make the decision I opted for taking a new fuel line back along the tunnel (inside the car) on the opposite side as the rear brake lines. It's secure and I think, safer than experiencing an undetected fuel leak INSIDE the tunnel. (I could so easily have burnt my whole house down.) |
That was the recommended factory replacement procedure. |
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