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jakesully Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:42 pm Post subject: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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I have been looking for a nice Red Carat Vanagon but it seems not many tornado reds were produced in 90 & 91. Any input from fellow owners!!??? |
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6114 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Well at first I thought I'd see several in the Classifieds, but out of 46 '90/'91s, only 1 Tornado Red, a Syncro too. At least I think it's a Tornado Red....
Here is our '91 Carat/Wolfsburg, bought in 1998 w/ 45 K miles:
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15129 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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no they didn't make alot of them..
it was a 'specialty' color and vanagons weren't moving fast or produced as many in 90/91..
so less overall units in production
a less offered color option
and less survive the last 30years.
some are likely disguised as pink
I don't know if these are accurate
https://carsalesbase.com/us-volkswagen-vanagon/
VOLKSWAGEN VANAGON U.S SALES FIGURES
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1991 5.039
1990 6.368
1989 4.969
1988 5.227
1987 10.336
1986 12.288
1985 16.296
1984 21.352
1983 14.695
1982 13.234
1981 11.479
1980 14.101 |
My 91 is a GL the interior of my prreference
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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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there are some out there...
here's my TRed with wolfsburg badge.. I painted the roof white.
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2978 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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They were rarer than other colors, but they used to be fairly easy to come by. I've owned two of them, and a close friend of mine has one, too. I think if you keep a close eye on the classifieds here and Craigslist, you'll find one eventually.
FWIW, they were only available as GL and Carat models. No Syncros were sold here in Tornado red. |
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hardway Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2012 Posts: 409 Location: Fidalgo Island
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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There are at least two here on Fidalgo Island. One that belongs to a very picky individual who bought it down south with fresh paint and one that looks like a beater. I remember others being here before. Be careful what you wish for.
The 87 Quantum Syncro Wagon I had for a very long time was Tornado. Tornado from that time period was not clear coated. The paint oxidizes. I can't tell you how many times I had to polish it. At least once a year. Eventually the white primer started showing through at the creases. Freshly polished and waxed it glowed and looked wet.
If you had one re-painted you could get it clear coated like a modern red car. My wide has a Honda Fit that is Milano red. It is nine years old and still looks pretty good. You can still see all of the swirl marks in the paint from the dealer wash boys. She has a hard time with the concept of detailing a vehicle. I have never offended her by insisting that I detail her car. I am thinking of trying Griot's new ceramic wax on the Fit. If I do so I will probably polish out some of the swirl marks that it came with when we bought it new. |
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3327 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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I have a Tornado. _________________ If You Build It______It Will Run
1959 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32432 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12103 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Try shopping for a certain color van only offered in limited numbers for half of one production year. When you find one you buy it sight unseen, and then fly 1100 miles away and drive it back home. THAT'S dedication to a color. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4485 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:26 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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The ones I've seen over the years have been...shall we say, "resting." One in my work neighborhood (it sold for a grand, as I was later told by the owner)...
... and another spotted near Philadelphia on a road trip.
...at John's Car Corner in Vermont.
...and an actual driver here in town.
Good luck! _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15129 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:44 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Dave, when one wants a Tornado red vanagon. they WANT a Tornado Red vanagon..
the hard part is not getting a Tornado pink van..
so to the OP, if you find a RED van, ask when it was repainted and be leery of a quality respray.. as a non-quality respray costs MORE to correct than having a pink van repainted.
but man this is a NICE VAN.
https://glenshelly.com/sales/sold-full/1990-volkswagen-vanagon-carat
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Shopping for an antique, I would not limit my selection by focusing on color.
You will pass up a lot of Blue, Maroon or other color diamonds seeking a red lump of coal.
You want to shop by color? Visit the new car dealers.
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dobryan Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:51 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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djkeev wrote: |
Shopping for an antique, I would not limit my selection by focusing on color.
You will pass up a lot of Blue, Maroon or other color diamonds seeking a red lump of coal.
You want to shop by color? Visit the new car dealers.
Dave |
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jimf909 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:46 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Here's one at wvSubaru spelled backwards in Buena Vista, CO...or maybe it's just a titan red van molting...or primer...
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goubeaux Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:31 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Here's a "Titan Red Metallic" This 90 tintop was originally a burgundy color, I believe "Bordeaux Red metallic" was what it was called ?
By accident I gave the painter the wrong paint code, and it got shot with Titan Red Metallic. Honestly though, it was a fortuitous error, as I think this is a far more interesting color !
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:34 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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yeah that's FAR from TOrnado Red
maybe you can answer this color question below?
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7892 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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goubeaux wrote: |
it got shot with Titan Red Metallic. |
Titian Red Metallic _________________ ~Kamz
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dobryan Samba Member
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goubeaux Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:13 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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Yes I "can read this" Maybe I'm not color blind just dyslexic ?
I can NOW appreciate though why color codes, rather than names, are used in the painting/printing industry !
Titian Red Metallic (LE3T)
danfromsyr wrote: |
yeah that's FAR from TOrnado Red
maybe you can answer this color question below?
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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SCM Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:55 am Post subject: Re: 90/91 Tornado Red Vanagons |
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goubeaux wrote: |
Here's a "Titian Red Metallic"
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I wonder if that's what color mine is. Mine seems a bit more maroon but it's hard to tell on a computer monitor. Can the paint name/code be found in the VIN or somewhere else on the van? _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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