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xxXXxx Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2006 Posts: 16 Location: watsonville CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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sorry for the basic question but i need to get started so i'll ask here now, i have acces to some basic machines like a mill and a few other thinks but nothing real special.i have a 68 stock block and was wondering what is the biggest stroke crank i could use, i want some power so i am thinking of 94mm cylenders, i will use 69mm cranks if i need to but if i could i would like to go bigger is this posible? I am looking for around 2100 cc's what would be the best way of doing this for the least mount of money. thanks for you time. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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You could make a 86mm crank fit.
But could you afford to buy one _________________ Glenn
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xxXXxx Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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i could shop around and probably come up on one, so i could get the 86 to fit with or without modifications, so if i found a 86mm crank for a resonable price and i use 94mm cylenders i would have about 2400cc's that would be probably more than enough, i think i would want to go a little smaller , it will proably come down to more what i come accrossed in the area that is verry well prices. if i did get a 86 or 84 stroke crank what size or type of rods should i look for, agian, thanks. |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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Ok, the title works well for my question, but the above content doesnt match. sorry.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Piston-Kit-w-liners-fits-...Sw6WleuZPQ
Anyone heard of SKP? Any notable issues? I ask b/c they hella cheap. Thanks _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
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'69 RIP
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evanfrucht Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2180 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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82mm Empi crank with a set of AA Performance thickwall 92 P&C kit
The case will need to be machined and rotating assembly balanced, which will cost around $400-500 altogether. That will also include case savers, bearing saddles machined if neccasary, full flow oil tapping, and they will make sure the case has no cracks.
Expect the whole build to cost roughly 5k MINIMUM. If you are wise with spending, possibly slightly less but it's also easy to spend more. Add an extra grand or two to budget just incase you need it, if an issue arises, etc. _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder ) |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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how do you figure building a 2276 out of empi and AA is going to cost a minimum of 5k? or are you talking about paying someone else to do it? _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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it was an old post guys _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3818 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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richardcraineum wrote: |
how do you figure building a 2276 out of empi and AA is going to cost a minimum of 5k? or are you talking about paying someone else to do it? |
I just built a 2276 recently. It was almost that much but the case and everything in it was new as well as the P&Cs, heads, rockers and fancy valve covers. I built it personally too. _________________ Volkswagen!
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evanfrucht Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2180 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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jeffrey8164 wrote: |
richardcraineum wrote: |
how do you figure building a 2276 out of empi and AA is going to cost a minimum of 5k? or are you talking about paying someone else to do it? |
I just built a 2276 recently. It was almost that much but the case and everything in it was new as well as the P&Cs, heads, rockers and fancy valve covers. I built it personally too. |
There ya go, I spent a tad more than I needed to on a 2180 which I'm building myself. I only outsourced the main machine work, that plus parts cost me about 5k, I havent added it up yet as I'm honestly scared too
A turn key of this magnitude from a shop costs around 6k-9k+ done right. You figure, as a business, they probably get a little discount on some of the parts, ordering in bulk, etc. When you think about it like that you realize shops likely take in roughly a 2-3k return to cover labor, overhead, and turn a profit. Makes enough sense to me.
Maybe if one were to throw together something using only pure junk and terribly machined parts, then it could cost as little as 2k
... But it might not last as many miles as the number of dollars spent _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder )
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evanfrucht Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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I wonder if he ever decided to build it _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
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Onceler Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: what cylender/piston works well for cheap? |
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I ran 12 pounds of boost through those p&c’s that used to come in the blue and yellow box. I can’t remember what the brand was named. _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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