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Ohio Tom Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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I used one of these 69.5mm cranks on a customers 1915 build. (1928cc now). Worked out well. Ended up with .050" deck and compression ratio right where we wanted it. Real simple upgrade. |
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NachoCar Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2013 Posts: 323 Location: Ms
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Lingwendil wrote: |
They'll be fine on a 1600ish engine. Just jet them right and set the linkage up properly. |
THANKS!!
read a fellow had luck with 28mm venturies, 110 main jet, 50 idle jet.
SO that's where I'll start! |
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Lingwendil Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3988 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
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NachoCar Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2013 Posts: 323 Location: Ms
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Naw HPMX 40's......just weighing options of increasing while rebuilding or waiting till find second case and going larger then.
No biggie, just thinking out load.
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Lingwendil Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3988 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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NachoCar wrote: |
My goofy predicament is that I found a 'Deal" on a set of dual carbs that are a little too big for my current displacement. I'm wondering if the mini-stroker and 88 mm cylinders would help me when combined with smaller jetting?
edit: so when used with 87 mm slip-ins we are looking at 1694, I reckon. Hhhhmmmm
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what, like a cheap set of 44IDF clones? Define "too big" or we're groping in the dark
20 thou of stroke wont appreciably increase the displacement enough to really make a difference. Carbs being too big means you need to work up the RPM band you want to focus on, vent the carbs down a bit, or trade carbs with someone going bigger. _________________ 73 super beetle thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=649622 Back on the Road!
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Cast iron VJU4BR8 SVDA reference thread- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:04 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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so what crabs? what current displacement? I would rather over carb and engine than under carb it....also I woodent waste $$ on a .020 stroke crank when a 10+ mm stroke will cost about the same and worth what ever extras you may require. |
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NachoCar Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2013 Posts: 323 Location: Ms
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:15 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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My goofy predicament is that I found a 'Deal" on a set of dual carbs that are a little too big for my current displacement. I'm wondering if the mini-stroker and 88 mm cylinders would help me when combined with smaller jetting?
edit: so when used with 87 mm slip-ins we are looking at 1694, I reckon. Hhhhmmmm
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jimmyhoffa Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2014 Posts: 1055 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:00 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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It would change not much, except the 69.5mm one I got was twice as far out of balance as an untouched random OE VW crank. My 78.4mm a few months previous was just as bad. In the future if I can't justify counterweight for the application, I can't imagine buying one of these over finding a good stock crank and having it balanced. _________________ 1974 Chenowth 2RL #1244 Street Legal
My other car isn't ridiculous. |
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NachoCar Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2013 Posts: 323 Location: Ms
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:21 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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What he /\/\ said !!?? |
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SparksLP Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2009 Posts: 213 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Reviving an old thread: Anyone end up using this crank, any feedback? Also, If you put this in an otherwise stock 1600DP, what would change? HP? Torque? Basically nothing? Long term I plan on building a performance 1600 motor for a vintage class type setup, and it would keep the displacement below 1600cc! Let me know if you guys have any feedback! _________________ Tom
1966 VW Beetle Sunroof Sedan |
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Paul.H Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2015 Posts: 613 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:14 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Virtue signals received loud and clear. I was wondering if anyone would take that bait
I guess a game of Ping Pong is out of the question |
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maplesyrup Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 182 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:29 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Erik G wrote: |
why not just say Chinese crank? Fuck outta here with that |
Agreed. _________________ Bugger |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13269 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Paul.H wrote: |
All those "Ting Tong" forged cranks will take 35psi boost and nitrous . The 69mm obviously is the strongest even in the 4140 alloy would probably take 45psi and the lack of nitriding is a good thing in such an application. |
why not just say Chinese crank? Fuck outta here with that |
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:47 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Paul.H wrote: |
Ohio Tom wrote: |
Paul.H wrote: |
All those "Ting Tong" forged cranks will take 35psi boost and nitrous . The 69mm obviously is the strongest even in the 4140 alloy would probably take 45psi and the lack of nitriding is a good thing in such an application. |
Why is lack of nitriding good?
It's just a surface hardening treatment. |
The cracks start in the crispy hard nitriding then travel through |
Crispy Ting Tong....
Got it... |
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Paul.H Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2015 Posts: 613 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:16 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Ohio Tom wrote: |
Paul.H wrote: |
All those "Ting Tong" forged cranks will take 35psi boost and nitrous . The 69mm obviously is the strongest even in the 4140 alloy would probably take 45psi and the lack of nitriding is a good thing in such an application. |
Why is lack of nitriding good?
It's just a surface hardening treatment. |
The cracks start in the crispy hard nitriding then travel through |
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:50 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Paul.H wrote: |
All those "Ting Tong" forged cranks will take 35psi boost and nitrous . The 69mm obviously is the strongest even in the 4140 alloy would probably take 45psi and the lack of nitriding is a good thing in such an application. |
Why is lack of nitriding good?
It's just a surface hardening treatment. |
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2218 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:46 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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Now I have to memorize a whole new crank/cylinder displacement group. Lol _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
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Ohio Tom Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: Marshallville Ohio
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:39 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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I just built a motor with one.
Works well.
Easy mini stroker.
1928cc motor.
Why not.... |
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Paul.H Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2015 Posts: 613 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:41 am Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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All those "Ting Tong" forged cranks will take 35psi boost and nitrous . The 69mm obviously is the strongest even in the 4140 alloy would probably take 45psi and the lack of nitriding is a good thing in such an application. |
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veedubcrazy Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2005 Posts: 2130 Location: La Porte, Tx.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: CB Performance 69.5MM Stroker crank |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
They will work great in any stock 1500/1600 engine. The extra .5mm stroke is to get you to the max engine size limit in those 1600cc limited classes.
There will be 200 new threads about those awesome 1653cc engines. |
Classic answering! _________________ 1967 Deluxe Sedan |
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