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Charitha Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2021 Posts: 11 Location: Victoria, Down Under
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:54 am Post subject: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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I just bought this SuperBug about a month ago and i'm going through cleaning it all up and doing some repairs. The bug has not been driven for a very very long time!
the engine is out and i just removed the aircleaner for a respray. while i was cleaning the components, i found out that that the linkage between 'Cold air flap' and 'servo arrangement' is missing, it's either it has been missing when i got the car or i have some how misplaced while removing the bits and pieces.
i understand it's just a very simple mechanism that's actuated by vacuum, but i'm just wondering whether anyone knows how the two two pieces are connected from factory.
i have not been able to find any photos or diagrams of this assembly in detail
cheers
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4408 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Matt Wilson Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2005 Posts: 2408 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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If I'm not mistaken, this was a 1972 one year only air cleaner. Those little plastic vacuum assemblies can tend to be brittle with age, so be careful! _________________ 1972 Standard Beetle
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Michael Ambrozik Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2020 Posts: 631 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Almost right Late 1971 -1972. |
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Charitha Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2021 Posts: 11 Location: Victoria, Down Under
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Thanks so much guys, this is exactly what i wanted to see. thanks for the pictures.
so i will have to find a way to make this work, i dont think i will have much luck finding a replacement flap with the linkage arm.
yeah, i'm still sort of trying to figure out whether the bug i have is a 71 or a 72, the plate says 71 manufactured, but may have been registered in 72. it's a SuperBug here Down Under
i have first tested the diaphragm by sucking out the air, but the arm had very little movement as i ran out of breath , then what i did i connected it to a vacuum line on my 98 Mitsubishi Challenger. Diaphragm works perfectly. |
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Charitha Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2021 Posts: 11 Location: Victoria, Down Under
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:05 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Does anyone have an unwanted flap/plate like this, who could ship to Australia? i could pay for the part and shipping. Thanks in advance
cheers
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7300 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Put an add in the classifieds and check the little box that says "this is a wanted ad". Borrow a picture of a good one from the gallery - bet Buggee would oblige w/his. They're definitely out there in there in the US, many-many-many '72s were sold here. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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vamram wrote: |
Put an add in the classifieds and check the little box that says "this is a wanted ad". Borrow a picture of a good one from the gallery - bet Buggee would oblige w/his. They're definitely out there in there in the US, many-many-many '72s were sold here. |
Looks like a part that could be 3D printed and glued on. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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Charitha Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2021 Posts: 11 Location: Victoria, Down Under
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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ok great. thanks for the tip. i'll put an ad up.
hmm 3D printing, didn't think of that. Thanks for the idea |
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Tom K. Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2005 Posts: 1605 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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First, take a length of tubing, attach it to the vaccum nipple on the canister and suck real hard to determine if the membrane inside holds vaccum and doesn’t leak. They can dry out and develop cracks.
Second, the thermostat device on top of the oil filter housing may be inoperative due to dried oil vapour and other mung. I posted pictures of how to dismantle and clean one some time back in, 2010 or 2011 I think. Will see if I can find it. Try cleaning it first with WD40. Inside are a simple bimetal strip and tiny ball valve in the port from the carb vacuum line and a rubber stopper type valve on the vacuum out side.
If you dismantle the thermostat, the two vacuum hose connections are threaded and unscrew, be careful not to lose the tiny ball valve......speaking from experience.
When “cold” the bimetal strip holds the ball down, preventing vacuum from being applied to the vac canister. As it warms up the metal strip releases the ball valve allowing vacuum to open the flap you are missing the link for.
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Jimbug57 Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2002 Posts: 817 Location: Mid Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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OP - if you get the thermostatic valve tested and still want the flap I have one for you. I think you'd be better off sourcing a 71 Super air cleaner, but if you've really got to have it let me know.
_________________ Repeat after me "I am smarter than metal!" |
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Just looked at mine, will attach pics. You are not missing anything. The end of the flap inserts into the opening at the end of the plastic “rod” that attaches to the diaphragm. It should move up and down....in and out, opening and closing the flap just as it is in your second two pics......unless I am miss-understanding what you are referring to as missing. |
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Just reread your post and see you have a good vac can. The plastic vac “rod” only moves in and out about 1/4 inch or so and moves the flapper enough, probably around 30 degrees or so. |
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Pics I took this morning. Its -20C here today. Wish I was in Aussie land right now!
Hope these help.
Ron |
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Must be the cold. Just realized the pics of an intact flapper were not yours and that the one of your flap is missing the metal connection. Still wish I was in Aussi land though...Ron |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7300 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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Can you actually drive the Bug in -20??? _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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pmriverrat Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2021 Posts: 92 Location: West Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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vamram wrote: |
Can you actually drive the Bug in -20??? |
Had a '55 that I drove from '61 to '66. Winter in Michigan back then got down to -30C. Had the throttle wire freeze at WOT once but it always started and ran when a lot of the locally built stuff wouldn't. |
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Gitchigumi Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Peterborough Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Super Bug - Air Cleaner |
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No problem at -20C, but she sits in the garage in the winters now. The old girl has earned that. She's a 75 standard bug with a 72 motor. |
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