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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:04 am    Post subject: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

I am looking into either refurbishing our existing tank with new shut-off valve and two-stage regulator or buying a new propane tank.

Looks like the Manchester tanks from Go Westy and Van Cafe are the same unit - $650 with regulator:

https://www.vancafe.com/253070601D-p/253070601d.htm
https://www.gowesty.com/product/lp-tank/2447/lpg-tank-with-regulator-

Bus Depot has a tank from Westfalia that runs $110 cheaper with a different style regulator (is that two-stage?):

https://www.busdepot.com/253070601d

I don't know much about LP tanks and am not sure about the differences here. If I rule out refurbishing, are there any pros and cons between these options? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

Don't waste your money on a new one unless yours is beyond hope. Refirb is simple and cheap

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

You can refurb with new hardware for about half if you are willing to follow simple directions and have time to remove old paint and rust then repaint the tank.
First step is to remove the valves and inspect the interior of the tank, with a camera, no (as in zero) rust/corrosion is allowable. Next strip the tank (after lightly reinstalling the valves),. Inspect for rust and corrosion especially at the welds. These tanks were made of very high quality steel and most are still in excellent condition.
Order all new hardware ie valves (Rego) and regulator (Westyventures). Follow the instructions on the REGO website.
Mask off and prime, repaint. Wait until fully dried/cured, reinstall.
Systematically check for leaks with soapy water.
Enjoy


Note The brass fitting are most likely in good condition but very closely inspect after cleaning (no powered wire brush).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

The BD regulator is the correct one for your vanagon. I refurbed our tank too. There is some appeal to having a new tank show up and you just bolt it in. I'm very cheap.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

All 3 are Manchester tanks.
Manchester was the original supplier for Vanagon Westys.

Yes, Westfalia bought USA made tanks for campers sold to the USA/CA market.

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Vanuber wrote:
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Looks like the Manchester tanks from Go Westy and Van Cafe are the same unit - $650 with regulator:

https://www.vancafe.com/253070601D-p/253070601d.htm
https://www.gowesty.com/product/lp-tank/2447/lpg-tank-with-regulator-

Bus Depot has a tank from Westfalia that runs $110 cheaper with a different style regulator (is that two-stage?):

https://www.busdepot.com/253070601d

I don't know much about LP tanks and am not sure about the differences here. If I rule out refurbishing, are there any pros and cons between these options? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

My tank is very good cosmetically with minimal corrosion. I would like to pursue the refurb route as I am not eager to spend $600 on a new tank. But safety is the primary concern.

Any thoughts on this GW tech article? https://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=62 They site that age and lack of a modern auto-stop filling port are reason to replace.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
The BD regulator is the correct one for your vanagon.


^This is good to know.

Does anyone have a good source for the shut-off valve? Mine is certainly leaking in between fully open and fully closed. Bleeder valve as well?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
All 3 are Manchester tanks.
Manchester was the original supplier for Vanagon Westys.


Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

Depending upon model of valve, some can be rebuilt.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

You dont have expire date on propane tanks in the states?
Here we have a 10 year date and you can have it inspected and recertified for an additional 10 years. After that you need to replace it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

State by state here, like most things.

Short version, if it can be removed , it needs DOT cert every 10 years

If it is permanent, it’s an ASME cert

...but enforcement varies widely by region.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
State by state here, like most things.

Short version, if it can be removed , it needs DOT cert every 10 years

If it is permanent, it’s an ASME cert

...but enforcement varies widely by region.


Thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

Nimbus'87 wrote:
Depending upon model of valve, some can be rebuilt.


Thanks for the tip!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

new valves are available online or from your local RV service center.
you need the valve that has the bump out the back as that's the over pressure relief vent.
https://www.google.com/search?q=3250BC312

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RV-PROPANE-LP-MARSHALL-EX...2951689490

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

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Does anyone have a good source for the shut-off valve? Mine is certainly leaking in between fully open and fully closed. Bleeder valve as well?


Did you not read my post in the 1st reply? EVERYTHING you need to know is there. Scroll down
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

I ran across this source that lists a full set for Westfalia tanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Propane-Cylinder-Tank-Val...Sw4Lle9NHP


Note that this isn't for late tanks and has no overfill device other than the little bleeder valve.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

a2wolfsburggli wrote:
Did you not read my post in the 1st reply? EVERYTHING you need to know is there. Scroll down


I did read your post. Very helpful, thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
I ran across this source that lists a full set for Westfalia tanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Propane-Cylinder-Tank-Val...Sw4Lle9NHP


All the parts in one purchase - nice! That's a pretty good price too after looking at a2wolfsburggli's part list.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
I ran across this source that lists a full set for Westfalia tanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Propane-Cylinder-Tank-Val...Sw4Lle9NHP


Note that this isn't for late tanks and has no overfill device other than the little bleeder valve.

Mark


Nice. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: New Propane Tank Options Reply with quote

Vanuber wrote:
Bus Depot has a tank from Westfalia that runs $110 cheaper with a different style regulator (is that two-stage?):

https://www.busdepot.com/253070601d


Was checking this price again tonight and Bus Depot raised their price by $110!
Also does not include the regulator, so make that $155. Now more than GW or Vancafe.
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