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&Dan Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2008 Posts: 1784
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:09 am Post subject: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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The annoying pushrod tube juggle gets a lot easier when you go find your drumsticks, stick one down the first pushrod tube you place, then the remainder go lickety-split. Thanks, Buddy Rich!
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earthquake Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2008 Posts: 3984 Location: SANDY VALLEY, NEVADA
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I wish we had a "LIKE" button great idea but now I have to buy some drum sticks.
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3461 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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Some here that will just look at the picture and not read your post, they will be assuming thats the new lightweight pushrod set, cause saving 2 ounces will gain 10 horsepower _________________ [email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg
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Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth. |
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I just use a deep socket that fits. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76894 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I never had a problem lining them up. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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FreeBug Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 4278 Location: deepest, darkest Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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Bu-dum tish... |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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your going to have some serious thick shims for those pushrods.now the only thing missing is the rimshot!!! |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12466
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I’ve always just used to pushrods themselves especially when building an engine in the upright position. This holds everything in the correct position as you line up the seams and get ready to tighten. Not shown any manual it was shown to me 25 or 30 years ago by the old man building engines. |
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&Dan Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2008 Posts: 1784
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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Was waiting for a rimshot, was not disappointed!
Actually, any excuse to make a reference to Buddy Rich, I'm gonna use it.
Also, I never seem to have the pushrods nearby when at the head-setting stage, typically I don't install them until I've spun the motor up for oil pressure. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12466
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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&Dan wrote: |
Was waiting for a rimshot, was not disappointed!
Actually, any excuse to make a reference to Buddy Rich, I'm gonna use it.
Also, I never seem to have the pushrods nearby when at the head-setting stage, typically I don't install them until I've spun the motor up for oil pressure. |
I was thinking about drummers and thought of Gene Krupa and then this popped up😀 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gene+krupa+buddy+rich+drum+battle+ |
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evanfrucht Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2180 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I don't get what the drum sticks are doing? What's the juggle? Don't they pretty much just fall into place, like you can simply feel when they are seated into the lifter cups?
What does this help with? _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder ) |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26776 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.
The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out. |
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&Dan Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2008 Posts: 1784
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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Right? Man were those guys good, and they knew it.
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neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.
The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out. |
For me it's a pain all the time, tubes falling on the floor, exasperating. Never been good at it.
T4s and Corvairs excepted. |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9459 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I just use the pushrods to hang them tubes all together while I introduce the heads on the cylinders. AFter the seals are in place in their holes you can remove the pushrods. SErve like 12th hands on there.
Those drumsticks look silly -
Anyone else have used a sledgehammer to build engines? I find no use for a larger hammer building engines. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26776 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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All the time.
Who has 10+ different kinds of hammers?
master craftsman.
The more hammers they have probably the higher the skill.
Or possibly a hammer collector, or an idiot, but probably not.
The first tool you learn to use, but you will never master it.
"Just need a bigger hammer"......is probably wrong, but it's also sometimes right:lol:
Rubber hammers, wood, brass, lead, long and skinny, big and fat, flat face, radius, dead blows, and all combinations of the above, in every size.
If your bigger hammer is not working, probably using it wrong, or it's not the right kind of hammer for the job. Or maybe the wrong operator. |
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evanfrucht Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2180 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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modok wrote: |
neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.
The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out. |
LOL! No wonder I didn't understand this as I'm building my engine with the windage tubes. They stand up straight by themselves. Now I get it... _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder ) |
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Dougy Dee Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2004 Posts: 1668 Location: Niagara Region, CANADA
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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I looked and the second thing I thought is "Must have big balls! He's building that in the kitchen!" |
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&Dan Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2008 Posts: 1784
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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Dougy Dee wrote: |
I looked and the second thing I thought is "Must have big balls! He's building that in the kitchen!" |
Only as a matter of course...
nsracing wrote: |
Those drumsticks look silly -
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Thanks for weighing in. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12466
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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There is probably 1000 different ways to do this and other tasks when building engines. Standard procedures are in manuals but much of what needs to be done is not. From time to time someone will share an idea or technique and I really appreciate that.
As for building indoors I can’t think of anything better. I kept a clean engine case on a dresser in our bedroom, and wife didn’t care. Since the house is climate controlled it’s ideal for storing things you don’t want to rust or corrode. This engine has been on the shelf for over twenty years is all standard. All the parts are there too.
The transaxle is swing but uses a later IRS case, look at the TO bearing, has 3.88 RP I’ve just not had occasion to use it. Stored inside it’s holding up well
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. |
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And yes I see the white stuff on tranny case. Needs a wipe down and hit it with Gibbs. |
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