Engine/tran out, cleaning up, PM, painting etc. Almost done!

[busdaddy]

Is the plenum off the engine?, if so water inside is OK, just dry it out soon after.
As for the TB, if the butterfly is sticking in the bore it's worn and should be replaced, unless you enjoy driving with a gas pedal that sticks closed.
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[brownbus2]

Haven't had a problem with pedal sticking, butterfly seems to be moving much better now.

Plenum is off and going in the ajax/dawn tote. I'm assuming if oil breather is off I can clean it up in the same fashion?

Thanks!
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1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[airschooled]

There are two throttle arms/return springs on most bus throttle bodies. One moves independently of the main lever, try moving the throttle exactly where the cable attaches, not where the return spring or EGR attach.

If you ever plan on reinstalling the EGR, clean out its distribution pipes inside the plenum now. (Soak in solvent and a ten pack of pipe cleaners, plus some elbow grease.

Robbie
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[brownbus2]

still cleaning and painting bits-manifold, breather box, tin etc.

I want to remove fan shroud to clean and paint it and fan.

Do I need an open ended wrench for that alternator mounting bolt?

Is is a must to remove the exhaust to pull off the shroud? i'd rather not disturb the non-leaking exhaust.

If I must remove the exhaust has anyone with ceramic coated or ceramichrome exhaust cleaned and shined it up? After 10 years mine is getting some surface rust.
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formerly known as Brown_Bus
1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

I just discovered something I want to share with you. I am almost ready to
Install the aluminum kit for sending unit access... so doing the final cleaning of the vapor lines, and replacing the fuel hose pieces that connect them. Lots of attention is given to replacing these connections, but I have never read that anyone recommended checking and cleaning the inside of the metal piping of the vapor system. There are two long metal vapor lines across the top of the fuel tank. I started wire wheeling the one to the front, and “just for grins” blew thru the tube.... except NO air made it to the other end. I ran a piece of bailing wire thru it.... ran into a clog about half the way thru. Took a while to break thru, then pushed a heavy gauge electrical wire thru, combined with carb cleaner. The clog and other deposits of surface rust and black granular deposits broke free and came out. So now , I think it wise to check as much of the vapor plumbing as I can. So, I would add this routine to you list!

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[brownbus2]

Thanks! Thankfully I havent replaced the vapor lines yet. Its on the list.

Next on this list is getting the damn exhaust off the driver-side head bolts.
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formerly known as Brown_Bus
1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[Zeta]

The Volkswagen Ranch, you mentioned ..."The clog and other deposits of surface rust and black granular deposits broke free..."

Did you take a picture of this mass/mess? Could you share?

Thanks for bringing this up.
Z
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1974 Westy
1800 cc Type4 Engine
Single Weber Carb

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

Didn’t take pics, but it just looked like black powder dust, and a little of rust powder as well . Sprayed carb cleaner into each of the long tubes, closed with fingers on both ends and shook like a cocktail ! Then blew out with compressed air, forced bailing wire through quite a few times, then thick red electrical wire. The only clogs were in the top 2 lines that run above the gas tank. Blew thru the other lines , all clear ... except the joint behind the spare tire wheel well. That one was “ pinched” closed. Pics to follow. Bob
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[Zeta]

Thank you Bob. Will add this step when I get to this. The methodology described is plenty and better than the picture in this case.
Sinc.
Z
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1974 Westy
1800 cc Type4 Engine
Single Weber Carb

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

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1963 Convertible (Lizzie) and 1964 Convertible (Patience) 1976 Westfalia (Winnie)

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

The 1/2” copper tubing is a sheath over the vapor hose. This joint won’t come apart again ... at least for quite some time. Bob
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[brownbus2]

Lookin good Bob.

i have some pics from my progress on my phone. Ill try to post them tomorrow and some commentary.

What started out as a "drop the engine to change the tank" task has turned into something more. Detailing the engine and painting the engine bay and surroundings, had the fuel lines from Scott so Im putting those in. New plugs, seals, CV boots, shift rod couplers and seals etc.
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formerly known as Brown_Bus
1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[The Volkswagen Ranch]

Yep, know the drill.... I started with the same plan, but “‘while I was there” collateral damage just kept happening. Oh well , she is at a shop in Phoenix to get the very nicely rebuilt engine installed .... and probably a couple of additional repairs I just can’t do! You are doing the right thing. If you don’t “ do it all” while the engine is out you will look back and wish you had.
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1963 Convertible (Lizzie) and 1964 Convertible (Patience) 1976 Westfalia (Winnie)

[Zeta]

[brownbus2]

made a bit of progress.

cleaned up engine a bit, cleaned and primed and painted some of the underside of the bus

painted tin, manifolds and some tin are being painted again today (tip:if painting engine tin etc. outside, dont do it during a pollen storm)

underside so far

can ya see the pollen?

more pics soon.

i like a dumb azz took apart my fan.... anyone have one that is OG not taken apart?)

shroud painting this week.
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formerly known as Brown_Bus
1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[Zeta]

Brownbus2,

Excellent. I am enjoying your journey and learning along the way. As I said before I am anticipating all these steps to fall on my lap as I get going on mine. Thus, going through yours it is extremely helpful. Thank you.

You mentioned, "i like a dumb azz took apart my fan....Sad anyone have one that is OG not taken apart?)" Why is that? I wasn't planning on doing this, but also did not know it is problematic to do so. Could you share why?

Also, did you only use the ATV jack to drop engine/tran as a unit without any other support (2nd jack to support trany while lowering)?

Thanks,
Z
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1974 Westy
1800 cc Type4 Engine
Single Weber Carb

[Zeta]

OK Brownbus2, I found a recent chat regarding the fan/shroud and potential issues if not taking care to keep it balanced...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Now I see the potential problems....good to know.
Z
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1800 cc Type4 Engine
Single Weber Carb

[brownbus2]

Zeta

I used the ATV jack for both... but I lowered trans portion onto a furniture dolly ($8 at HF).

ATV jack is now extended and I am using a cinder block to support tranny portion.

When cleaning my fuel rails and the intake plenum I pulled the wires into the CS valve//one came out without the spade end. So when i went to take off the little boot I noticed what seems to be a very clogged CS valve

also like a dummy my labels came off of my cs valve wires...where do the two wires lead? TS2 and hot? or?

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formerly known as Brown_Bus
1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy

[Zeta]

[brownbus2]

trying to get fan shroud back on.

Having trouble lining up the dipstick tube with boot.

If I line those up the bolts dont line up-- and vice-versa.

Is there a trick anyone has used?
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1976 FI Marino Yellow Westy