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Looks pretty solid. I'm thinking it'll be RNM at $78k. Last 23 did sell at $75k, but I have a feeling consignor will want higher than market value, claiming original paint.
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bobrk
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Looks pretty solid. I'm thinking it'll be RNM at $78k. Last 23 did sell at $75k, but I have a feeling consignor will want higher than market value, claiming original paint. |
And the original paint claim is not standing up to any scrutiny, as picture 59 can attest.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:46 am Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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Looks pretty solid. I'm thinking it'll be RNM at $78k. Last 23 did sell at $75k, but I have a feeling consignor will want higher than market value, claiming original paint. |
And the original paint claim is not standing up to any scrutiny, as picture 59 can attest. |
Is he saying it's all original paint?
No way on the red.
I see overspray in the pics of red.
Maybe on the top but it looks pretty nice for a "rainy" weather Bus.
It's clear the pedals are painted wrong. White pedals, etc. I'd suspect front floor work and a repaint there.
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dmonger
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:49 am Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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| For what it's worth the last 23 sold on BAT was mine and it actually sold for 78k as that was our reserve and BAT made up the difference from the high bid of 75k to make the ensure the sale. |
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bobrk
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:50 am Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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| bobrk wrote: |
| teahead wrote: |
Looks pretty solid. I'm thinking it'll be RNM at $78k. Last 23 did sell at $75k, but I have a feeling consignor will want higher than market value, claiming original paint. |
And the original paint claim is not standing up to any scrutiny, as picture 59 can attest. |
Is he saying it's all original paint?
No way on the red.
I see overspray in the pics of red.
Maybe on the top but it looks pretty nice for a "rainy" weather Bus.
It's clear the pedals are painted wrong. White pedals, etc. I'd suspect front floor work and a repaint there.
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He is saying it's original...
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Mar 31 at 11:59 PM
tifjeslil (The Seller) This author's likes: 16
@kombisquad it is all original paint with all original metal |
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bobrk
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:50 am Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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| bobrk wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| bobrk wrote: |
| teahead wrote: |
Looks pretty solid. I'm thinking it'll be RNM at $78k. Last 23 did sell at $75k, but I have a feeling consignor will want higher than market value, claiming original paint. |
And the original paint claim is not standing up to any scrutiny, as picture 59 can attest. |
Is he saying it's all original paint?
No way on the red.
I see overspray in the pics of red.
Maybe on the top but it looks pretty nice for a "rainy" weather Bus.
It's clear the pedals are painted wrong. White pedals, etc. I'd suspect front floor work and a repaint there.
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He is saying it's original...
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Mar 31 at 11:59 PM
tifjeslil (The Seller) This author's likes: 16
@kombisquad it is all original paint with all original metal |
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The black door window frames have been pointed out as well...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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You can see overspray on the door latches. Shitty separation lines around the rear hatch and the doors. So, maybe he means original color? The bus looks like it was gutted and someone put it back together using their collection of different bus parts.
It is real, looks pretty solid, but it’s basically a project bus. I doubt it will make reserve unless the guy is realistic meaning realizes it’s not a $200k bus but is a $70k project bus.
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The single cab is the sort of bus everyone used to drive back when people used to drive buses everyday which is less and less common. It’s in that weird zone like the 21 that didn’t sell and the 23 that’s up now, it really doesn’t fit in the current reality of the bus market which is big money wants nice looking and done buses. Yet it’s likely to expensive to be considered a project bus.
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$15k is a deal, that'll barely cover what they have in Bondo and Welding wire
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| "puffy" body work, and what is up with the trim above the front doors? |
That is common on Brazilian buses. It is to keep rain water off of you when entering the bus.
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Braukuche
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I don’t even bother to pick apart the Brazilian terds on BaT anymore. The ones that are “restored” there are absolute garbage.
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I understand you have to pay a capital gains tax too ? Right , as a seller.?
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| I understand you have to pay a capital gains tax too ? Right , as a seller.? |
Yes, but you can net out your costs to date if you have a competent accountant.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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| I understand you have to pay a capital gains tax too ? Right , as a seller.? |
That’s news to me. I guess if you are a dealer or a shop and writing off expenses you have to. But the average person usually loses money on classic cars.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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| gitchesum wrote: |
| I understand you have to pay a capital gains tax too ? Right , as a seller.? |
That’s news to me. I guess if you are a dealer or a shop and writing off expenses you have to. But the average person usually loses money on classic cars.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:21 am Post subject: Re: BAT Buses |
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Truly curious.... has anybody REALLY (in USA) paid a gains tax after selling their vehicle for 50k?
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