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Restore to original as much as possible. |
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Modern restomod is a fine new life for a classic VW |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:13 pm Post subject: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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This is the 1965 EZ Camper I got from my dad.
Not sure what to do with it. Quite Rusty. Interior has lots of water damage. Dad reports the engine is a 1500cc beetle engine, not the original.
Is it too nice to make a #vanlife restomod camper out of it? Modern camper interior, perhaps with slideout kitchen, modern penta-canopy? Disc brakes for the Colorado mountains. Perhaps a non-turbo Subie conversion motor? Safari windows! Two-tone paint like a deluxe!
Or is the "right thing to do" simply to restore it to original as much as possible, even getting someone to make one of those cheesey striped canopies to attach to the roof runner? Back to the original plain gray color.
THoughts?
Thanks
Conrad
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Maybe it's a Caravelle now that I compare with others. _________________ Wag more, bark less |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7045 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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i personally like the look of those windows. i say put on a good top, and a modern interior that suits your needs. I personally would never do the subi thing, but i get it. i like the whole aircooled part of these old VWs. I would prolly build a 2 liter or so. plenty fast. Subi is not cheap unless you can do it yourself. _________________ regards
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3093 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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If you don’t have enough cash to repair the metal properly, then I wouldn’t consider a radiator. It’s a hacked panel, and originality isn’t really paramount at this point. So have fun!
.. Also... not trying to be mean, but the chances of you finishing the project you have in your mind is possibly not very realistic. Consider starting small... get it running and moving/stopping again... throw in a funky z-bed for now. |
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velvetgreen Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2736 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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welcome- hate to break it to you but that bus doesn't look that rusty to me all things considered. get it stopping and driving (In that order) and chip away at the metal work. if you finish that long rocker and paint blend it would look good enough to me for now. interior is a blank slate- if you are not obsessed with originality you can come up with a decent interior for now. those style of vent windows generally made poorly in my experience and are prone to leaking.
Take your time and enjoy the experience- read lots and you can leverage a lot of fellow members knowledge/experience and dare i say wisdom |
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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great to just keep, as is or restore over your lifetime - i'd appreciate just looking at it and tell others about your old '65 EZ - sheesh, i'd probably never drive it - just enjoy ownership - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Let's see some pics of the rust and the underside.
Subaru engines are for subarus and vanagons, not split buses.
That bus is mostly original paint, and most people here would agree that it should remain original paint. It can clean up really well.
You are new to buses, take it simple and slow. Don't go for the high dive into the deep end of the pool right off the bat, or you will get in over your head and likely end up giving up before you even get to drive your bus. Make it run in stock form first, and you will have much more fun. _________________ .
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24671 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Personally refuse to vote. It is your bus, but as others have posted, better to start by just getting what you have running, reseal the windows/doors and get bus experienced.
You will find once you have it running reliably, and cleaned up that you will get plenty of notice from the public and fellow drivers without needing to pimp your ride. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Malokin Martin wrote: |
.. Also... not trying to be mean, but the chances of you finishing the project you have in your mind is possibly not very realistic. Consider starting small... get it running and moving/stopping again... throw in a funky z-bed for now. |
Thanks--that sounds like sage advice to me. _________________ Wag more, bark less |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Lind wrote: |
Let's see some pics of the rust and the underside.
Subaru engines are for subarus and vanagons, not split buses.
That bus is mostly original paint, and most people here would agree that it should remain original paint. It can clean up really well.
You are new to buses, take it simple and slow. Don't go for the high dive into the deep end of the pool right off the bat, or you will get in over your head and likely end up giving up before you even get to drive your bus. Make it run in stock form first, and you will have much more fun. |
I'm hearing a recurring theme of 'start slow'!
So original paint is way better? Wonder if I can get that brown off that some prior hippies applied!
Here's shots of the underside. I think the floor is ok, but the floor cross members and jack supports are sad. Can they be replaced from the bottom without taking the whole interior out?
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24671 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Floor looks great, except for the rust that needs to be treated. Avoid sand blasting, due to that causes more rust problems later from sand being packed into crevices. Sand acts like a sponge to hold moisture for a nice long time... Might see if there is a place near enough to you to do soda blasting. Then use a phosphoric acid metal prep to get out most of the last of the rust and it washes out any last soda from the blasting.
Outriggers can be replaced pretty easily, but best to get a setup to flip the bus on its side or a full rotisserie.
Brown paint can be removed with 3M Safest Stripper and a little experimenting on how long to leave it on to remove that and not melt off the original paint under it. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Thanks guys! I'll keep you all posted as I progress. _________________ Wag more, bark less |
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NUTSFORBUSES Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2016 Posts: 555 Location: I don't recognize it anymore
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Great advice given. I would get it running, then attack the frame & paint it. You have a lot of work ahead before deciding the type. |
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norcalmike Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 4784 Location: Marina, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Rusty?
That looks like its a weekend away from enjoyment |
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FarmerBill Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2017 Posts: 762 Location: New England
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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If it is an EZ camper you should find a couple of plates attached to the body somewhere.
Sometimes they're on the dogleg under the door, sometimes behind the seat. Depends on who was attaching them that day. |
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12384
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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norcalmike wrote: |
Rusty?
That looks like its a weekend away from enjoyment |
Malokin Martin wrote: |
.. Also... not trying to be mean, but the chances of you finishing the project you have in your mind is possibly not very realistic. Consider starting small... get it running and moving/stopping again... throw in a funky z-bed for now. |
Depending on where you are, any bus project can be a slippery slope. Whether to do a complete restore with getting rid of all rust, or just clean it up (like a bath ) and get it driving is up to you.
It does look like you can drive it w/o rust repair, so that is an option to seriously consider.
Start with a battery and a can of gas, see if the engine will run.
see this:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247682&highlight=ages
Does the hand brake work?
Air in the tires?
Oil the hinges and door mechanisms.
Then you can drive it round the yard and check the trans to see if it pops out of gear or makes horrible noises.
Then re-build brakes, get new tires. new axle seals. Clean out gas tank.
You may want to check the steering for slop.
wiper motor
etc.
Slide out kitchen is not such a good idea, sorry. Just pack a folding table and campstove.
An awning on a camper is actually very nice, FWIW.
If the interior is trashed, a new one is not a bad idea. But I can't see it from here.
oh... have you ever driven a split bus? _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13247 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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those jack stands were recalled. I'd get some better ones and return those to harbor freight
agree with slow down. get it stopping and driving first |
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1693 Location: Great north woods Maine
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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I wish I could find a bus that rusty!
58 deck lid?
Cool bus, have fun with it! |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Clara wrote: |
oh... have you ever driven a split bus? |
Does a '70 bay window count?
It ain't a Miata.
THanks guys! Excited to get started this weekend. _________________ Wag more, bark less |
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YetAnotherConrad Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2021 Posts: 8 Location: Denver
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Meet "Rusty". What should I do with it? |
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Since I'm going to follow that fine advice and just get it running and take it from there (and most-likely minimally restore it), is it a good idea to repaint the wheels? Those rear wheels are super rusty!
Bus needs new tires and I figured I should take care of the wheels first.
Thoughts?
Thanks! _________________ Wag more, bark less |
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