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markf1
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 Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:21 pm Post subject: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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First a little sad history. In October 2019 the transaxle blew up on our 86 Syncro. We got towed into a town where we did not know any mechanics. We ended up having the transaxle re-built by Mr. Gas in Canon City, CO. Respected and experienced rebuild guy. We had the transaxle put back in by foreign car shop in town where the van had been towed after break down. Very bad experience with this shop on multiple levels.
While we were traveling they contacted us and said we need new rear axles and cv assemblies and they need them immediately and they had already ordered some. I was leery of what they ordered and said that we want the right parts and so had them overnighted from Go Westy. Now I have learned that the EMPI parts from Go Westy are not that desirable but that was what was put in. I also ordered the Rockford boot Kit. In the end I don't really know what they did. Far more to the story with these guys but I will leqve it at that.
Since the work was done we have only put 1K miles on the van. At 600 miles one of the rear axles became unbolted form the wheel. Another tow. It seems the hex type bolts had never been properly torqued.
Now - on the other side (passenger rear I am seeing this slight leak where the axle/cv connects to the transaxle. Photo is attached. If you look close it alos appears that there are wear/age cracks on the samll side of the boot and also signs of leakage around it. No way that boot only has 1K miles on it imo.
My question. Can transaxle fluid leak out from that point? Is there a seal that we should get replaced?
In a few days we are taking the van to a new shop that has been highly recommended from a very experienced and trusted source. They are putting on new rear shocks, new rear locker switch, power steering hose. I am going to show them this but thought to get some expert advice and opinions from you all first.
Thanks in advance!
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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That’s 1000 miles? The leak appears to be from transaxle the seal/race adjusting ring. That would likely be a claim with Mr Gas. There is a side cover O ring and seal. The cv flange is where the trans seal seals. A proficient tech should be able to fix it. Worse case the flange may need a speedi sleeve repair.
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markf1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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Thanks to you both. Yes just 1K miles since re-built transaxle and (supposedly) new axle/cv assemblies put in. It's a new cv boot clamp but look at the wear/age cracks on the small end of the boot by the clamp.
Yes we do drive on a lot of dirt roads.
Photos of passenger side inner cv area attached for a comparison. Again both sides supposedly had new axles/cv/boots put on 1K miles ago when rebuilt transaxle got put back in.
I could go on at length about the other problems with this foreign car repair shop, Alpine Autohaus in Grand Junction , CO but it is too painful to regurgitate how badly I feel we got ratf***ed.
Talking to new mechanic now about replacing all this "new" stuff with Lobro CV and Rockford boots. Hoping now to get it done asap cause plan is to head out into the canyon country wilderness with the van @ 4/12.
You guys here on the samba continue to amaze me with your expertise, good advise and positive spirits Thanks!!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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These are brand new Lobro boots. 10 miles
Boots are a crap shoot. There have been posted issues with Rockford boots too.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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Ho. Lee. Phuq.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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| MarkWard wrote: |
These are brand new Lobro boots. 10 miles
Boots are a crap shoot. There have been posted issues with Rockford boots too. |
If it weren’t fir the user I would call user error on this, but this guy knows his way around the shop.
Unbelievable new low in part quality
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markf1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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Hmm. That is interesting. I am thinking of having the Lobro Cv joints with Rockford Boots put on. I could sub the VW Tiquan boots. Too bad your test is still in it's early stages!
Is there a preferred axle I should be considering as well? IOW - The part that connects between the inner and outer cv'c?.
there is so much labor involved and I want to (and wanted to previously) use the best parts. Doesn't cost any more labor to put in better components. We don't do any extreme four wheeling but we get off the pavement quite often on high clearance roads. Dependability in remote travel is our primary concern
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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| markf1 wrote: |
Hmm. That is interesting. I am thinking of having the Lobro Cv joints with Rockford Boots put on. I could sub the VW Tiquan boots. Too bad your test is still in it's early stages!
Is there a preferred axle I should be considering as well? IOW - The part that connects between the inner and outer cv'c?.
there is so much labor involved and I want to (and wanted to previously) use the best parts. Doesn't cost any more labor to put in better components. We don't do any extreme four wheeling but we get off the pavement quite often on high clearance roads. Dependability in remote travel is our primary concern |
Tiquans are all over the place running OE VW boots.
I would NOT run any Vanagon boot available today.
I would, if pressed, say run VW's boot.
FCP has them.
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markf1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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OK. I thought from the thread you linked to that you bought a set of the vag/vw boots and a set of the lobro and you were testing both?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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For the price of labor for this job, you could likely buy all the equipment necessary to do it yourself, forever. Just sayin'.
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markf1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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Yes and I think I could do the work although I am by no means a professional mechanic. BUT
I have a outside gravel parking space to work on it in.
I have a business and clients to take care of.
I have a GF relationship to keep on track
I have a house that requires maintenance
I like to do alot of other stuff like outdoor rec/exercise , piano, etc.
So... I will gladly pay a pro and esp if he is honest and conscientious.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:30 am Post subject: Re: Leak at Rear CV -Transaxle connection |
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New aftermarket rubber parts are crap nowadays. Sometimes OE too.
I don't know why.
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