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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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Sorry to mislead. On $yncro parts, I $uppose I have to alway$ be $erious.

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I enjoyed it, and fell for it for longer than I care to admit

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

On the previous page, I looked up the part numbers and there is a left and right side.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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$13 shipped. Not even worth messing with drilling out the bolt.


I'm just going to buy a new one and replace it. My van is a 1990. Is there a difference between 1.9 and 2.1 engines for replacing this part? I'm not even really sure what mine is, but I think after 1985 they're all 2.1?

I just want to make sure I am purchasing the correct part. Nature is calling my name right now. Time to get the van back on the road.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

Sorry to mislead. On $yncro parts, I $uppose I have to alway$ be $erious.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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If you drive on the left side of the road, they will hit the tarmac.

Seriously, though, I was joking in my two posts above, which I think you were aware of.


I 100% thought you were serious. After finding enough Syncro specific parts that my van was and is still missing, intake runners were totally in the realm of plausibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

This is a headless thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

If you drive on the left side of the road, they will hit the tarmac.

Seriously, though, I was joking in my two posts above, which I think you were aware of.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

Really? Syncro specific runners? I have a 2wd engine/intake in my syncro and no problems with the intake runners hitting.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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The runner length is different. I wonder if this is to offset the clamps?


It may not be obvious to you folks raised in North America, but to me, it is obvious that runner is for the left hand drive (LHD) Vanagons. The UK export RHD vans, not including Syncros, which used Syncro-specific (higher ground clearance) runners, had the short/long sides reversed, which allowed for the higher compression on the DJ engines. Operating these UK-designated vehicles on the right hand side of the road could lead to lean misfires.

Okay, back to work now . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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my holding bolt broke. got it out with the usual arsenal of patience and tools. was cleaning up the threads with a tap and i knocked the manifold off the bench, hit on the tap and broke the tap off below the surface. i cried and used a different manifold. need to get the tap out someday.


Chuck Norris could scare that bolt stub out with a sideways glance. Considering how hard taps are, the broken tap would require a roundhouse kick.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

Intake gasket fits 2 ways. Only one way is correct.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

Besides length, the right manifold has a stud to hold the TPS plug in place.

Pull those two 8mm (13mm head ) bolts and the manifold is yours!

Do check the two intake hoses on the manifold, they dry out and crack, you may need new ones along with a new manifold to head gasket, most often a thick spacer.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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my holding bolt broke. got it out with the usual arsenal of patience and tools. was cleaning up the threads with a tap and i knocked the manifold off the bench, hit on the tap and broke the tap off below the surface. i cried and used a different manifold. need to get the tap out someday.


That's the perfect example of the exponential problems that can arise. You don't have a tap extractor? Wink

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If I can take it out and put it on a bench, I'm confident I can remove it.


That's the right attitude. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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i'm sure you can find an intake runner pretty easily... i know Dave has several lying around Wink

remove the two 13mm bolts holding the runner, put paper towels in the intakes, take the runner to a shop and they can remove it if it's beyond your ability.

bravo for tackling the job, welcome to the learning curve.


I didn't think that section could be removed. I was going to say, getting access to that fastener would have been extremely difficult to keep straight line access.

If I can take it out and put it on a bench, I'm confident I can remove it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

my holding bolt broke. got it out with the usual arsenal of patience and tools. was cleaning up the threads with a tap and i knocked the manifold off the bench, hit on the tap and broke the tap off below the surface. i cried and used a different manifold. need to get the tap out someday.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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The runner length is different. I wonder if this is to offset the clamps?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

Stupid question and I could look it up. Is there a left and right?

Edit: looked it up and there is a left and right. Different part numbers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

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$13 shipped. Not even worth messing with drilling out the bolt.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

i'm sure you can find an intake runner pretty easily... i know Dave has several lying around Wink

remove the two 13mm bolts holding the runner, put paper towels in the intakes, take the runner to a shop and they can remove it if it's beyond your ability.

bravo for tackling the job, welcome to the learning curve.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Help - Air flow meter and fuel injectors Reply with quote

I'll chime in saying that you should really assess your skill level for extracting the broken fastener.

To someone experienced and who has the tools, it is an easy task...... half hour even if everything goes wrong.

To an inexperienced hand? It can be daunting and result in an bigger headache.

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