When will i pollute the ground with oil a and bits of con rod? |
On break in |
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3% |
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3rd start up |
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1% |
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50 miles down the road |
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3% |
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3k miles down the road |
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15% |
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15k miles down the road |
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27% |
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50k miles down the road |
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48% |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:02 pm Post subject: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Mystery engine. I pulled it apart, cleaned everything. Replaced the rod and cam bearing without measuring simply because i had them. replaced the worn dished cam with a good used flat cam and maxi pump. new lifters. solid rockers shafts. Ive got 60 bucks invested so far. just need pistons and cylinders now.
I got the short block nearly finished today.
turns out 40hp. screens meant for 6mm galleys dont fit dual relief cases lol. I cleaned the wrong part. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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Onceler Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Sweep the floor engines are the most fun. Add a turbo for maximum enjoyment! _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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Maxpower Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2009 Posts: 26 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Is that a gex tattletale disk on it? |
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petrol punk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:58 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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The less time, money, effort, and thought spent on an engine the longer it will last. That's a solid 250k mile motor right there. _________________ 36hp '56 European DeLuxe oval, '70 bug 1835cc dual 36DRLA, and a '98 4x4 5spd single cab Tacoma |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:10 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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petrol punk wrote: |
The less time, money, effort, and thought spent on an engine the longer it will last. That's a solid 250k mile motor right there. |
That's not wrong!
Many years ago I bought a used engine for my Rabbit, went totally OCD on it doing everything possible to make it "right" with all the tricks, spent big bucks and had nothing but grief with oil pressure issues etc. Finally got it sorted out and running well.
Then I rebuilt the stock engine, just threw it together with new bearings, rings, valve guides and a gasket set, a $250 rebuild. No measuring, no machining,
no balancing - nothing! Stuffed it in an old rusty Audi Fox. That sucker was spot on from day one, even used less oil than it did when it was new and less that the big dollar rebuild! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Paul Jr Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2018 Posts: 458 Location: PA
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Unfair question, because you havent told us if you will run moderately or trash on it at every opportunity? |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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moderate. I will end up giving it away when i finish the 1385. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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if you leave the oil screen out and dont measure a damn thing, just put it together. you probably wont be able to kill it _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" - bdkw1 |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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richardcraineum wrote: |
if you leave the oil screen out and dont measure a damn thing, just put it together. you probably wont be able to kill it |
full flow
cant tell if your joking or not(sorry)
A running 60 dollar engine is better than no engine. I dont have the time or funds to build a third engine lol. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9602 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Did you at least test for camshaft gear to crank drive gear backlash with the 2nd cam? Does the crank rotate easily and uniformly now that the case is together? Take out the oil pressure relief valve and spring to check that the plunger is not jammed? Flush through each case half's oil galleys with a water jet and/or solvent for getting at least some of the nested residue out of them? Chase your head studs and engine perimeter studs with the appropriate dies so that you get accurate tightening torques? Each one of those tasks would take maybe 1/2 hr but would add a notch in confidence. |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:36 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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oops yeah i almost forgot to mention i did check camshaft thrust endplay. rotating assembly rotates fine although number 2 main journal has a tiny bit of surface rust. the only other thing im measuring is ring gap. other than that if the thing blows up or comes apart oh well.
the gear i replaced the old one w/ has the same backlash number so it should be fine. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:17 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Update. The short block minus pistons and cylinders is completely done and torqued to spec.
I no joke found an SKP 85.5mm piston cylinder set for 104 bucks plus 10 bucks shipping on parts geek.
I ordered it 2 days ago so I'm guessing it will be here sometime next week.
Btw is this the correct dizzy?
Engine code is and AE459777
Bosch dizzy code is 023 178 009
Thanks _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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BFB Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 1689
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:56 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
richardcraineum wrote: |
if you leave the oil screen out and dont measure a damn thing, just put it together. you probably wont be able to kill it |
full flow
cant tell if your joking or not(sorry)
A running 60 dollar engine is better than no engine. I dont have the time or funds to build a third engine lol. |
i was seriously joking. heh heh!
but seriously, thats just the way life goes. its like this, ive been painting cars for over 30 yrs and i realized years ago that the harder i tried to make a perfect paint job the more problems i had. BUT if the car was a turd and i put minimal effort into it , that would be the most flawless job i could ask for.
so i say the less effort you put into this engine assuming it'll barely last past break in, that itll probably never die _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" - bdkw1 |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7274 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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I like your style!
I don't think an 009 is correct for anything, or at least not factory original. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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richardcraineum wrote: |
Chickensoup wrote: |
richardcraineum wrote: |
if you leave the oil screen out and dont measure a damn thing, just put it together. you probably wont be able to kill it |
full flow
cant tell if your joking or not(sorry)
A running 60 dollar engine is better than no engine. I dont have the time or funds to build a third engine lol. |
i was seriously joking. heh heh!
but seriously, thats just the way life goes. its like this, ive been painting cars for over 30 yrs and i realized years ago that the harder i tried to make a perfect paint job the more problems i had. BUT if the car was a turd and i put minimal effort into it , that would be the most flawless job i could ask for.
so i say the less effort you put into this engine assuming it'll barely last past break in, that itll probably never die |
Actually, I know what your talking about _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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vamram wrote: |
I like your style!
I don't think an 009 is correct for anything, or at least not factory original. |
Why thanks.
I dug out one of my fan shrouds I painted nearly 2 years ago. I used to pretty since then its gained some scrapes but it will do.
I've got 13 days to get the chassis finished and this engine running.
Let's see if I can pull it off
Edit- I checked the end play today. Looks like its somehow in spec lol. I'm not gonna question it.
_________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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vamram Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
Edit- I checked the end play today. Looks like its somehow in spec lol. I'm not gonna question it.
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Well, had I known that I would have voted differently! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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evanfrucht Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
I've got 13 days to get the chassis finished and this engine running.
Let's see if I can pull it off
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Looks like a runner to me! Ready to bolt up. Just stick your fuel hose into the block and fire her up already!!! _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder )
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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eye eye captin
working on last minutes purchases now so i can make the deadline.
ITEM DESCRIPTION
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QTY
TOTAL
ACC-C10-5491 - EMPI - INTAKE MANIFOLD BOOT KIT - RED RUBBER (NOT SILICONE) W/ CLAMPS - DUAL PORT STYLE ENGINES
ACC-C10-5491 - EMPI - INTAKE MANIFOLD BOOT KIT - RED RUBBER (NOT SILICONE) W/ CLAMPS - DUAL PORT STYLE ENGINES
USD $8.99
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USD $8.99
VWC-058-129-413-D - (058129413D 98-1303-B) ELECTRIC FUEL IDLE CUT OFF VALVE FOR 30/31 AND 30-2 PICT CARBURETOR - 12 VOLT - SOLD EACH
VWC-058-129-413-D - (058129413D 98-1303-B) ELECTRIC FUEL IDLE CUT OFF VALVE FOR 30/31 AND 30-2 PICT CARBURETOR - 12 VOLT - SOLD EACH
USD $18.74
1
USD $18.74
BOS-WR8AC-4 - BOSCH SUPER PLUS SPARK PLUG - BEETLE 46-79/GHIA 56-74/BUS 50-71/TYPE-3 62-74 - SOLD AS A SET OF 4
BOS-WR8AC-4 - BOSCH SUPER PLUS SPARK PLUG - BEETLE 46-79/GHIA 56-74/BUS 50-71/TYPE-3 62-74 - SOLD AS A SET OF 4
USD $12.99
1
USD $12.99
BOS-1-234-332-144 - 5400 RPM REV LIMITING DISTRIBUTOR ROTOR FITS ALL 70-79 BEETLE/GHIA/BUS/TYPE-3 - ALSO BOSCH 009 - SOLD EACH
BOS-1-234-332-144 - 5400 RPM REV LIMITING DISTRIBUTOR ROTOR FITS ALL 70-79 BEETLE/GHIA/BUS/TYPE-3 - ALSO BOSCH 009 - SOLD EACH
USD $11.24
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USD $11.24
BOS-1-235-522-056 - (113-905-207-C 113905207C) GOOD REPRODUCTION (NOT BOSCH) - DISTRIBUTOR CAP - BEETLE 69-79 / GHIA 69-79 / BUS 69-79 / VAN. 80-83 & BOSCH 009 DIS. - SOLD EACH
BOS-1-235-522-056 - (113-905-207-C 113905207C) GOOD REPRODUCTION (NOT BOSCH) - DISTRIBUTOR CAP - BEETLE 69-79 / GHIA 69-79 / BUS 69-79 / VAN. 80-83 & BOSCH 009 DIS. - SOLD EACH
USD $7.49
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USD $7.49
ACC-C10-5860 - YELLOW IGNITION WIRE SET - 12-1600CC ENGINES - BEETLE 46-79 / GHIA 56-74 / BUS 50-71
ACC-C10-5860 - YELLOW IGNITION WIRE SET - 12-1600CC ENGINES - BEETLE 46-79 / GHIA 56-74 / BUS 50-71
USD $19.99
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USD $19.99
ACC-C10-5239 - OE GERMAN MADE - VALVE ADJUSTING SCREW KIT W/ 8MM NUTS - STOCK REPLACEMENT - ALL BEETLE STYLE ENGINES
ACC-C10-5239 - OE GERMAN MADE - VALVE ADJUSTING SCREW KIT W/ 8MM NUTS - STOCK REPLACEMENT - ALL BEETLE STYLE ENGINES
USD $13.59
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USD $13.59 _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:39 am Post subject: Re: The 1600 "grenade", Placing bets |
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You just blew your $10 budget! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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