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LBC28730 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2021 Posts: 78 Location: NC
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 pm Post subject: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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While replacing my main heater control switch, I noticed the place for a bulb behind the control faceplate and it got me thinking, this should all be illuminated!
Removing the rear blower control I found a socked (burnt out 2721) but but no socket for the controls face.
I found these wires with no home in the dash but I'm not getting any power to them.
(I routed them out this way, they were just laying behind the head unit/under ashtray)
Before digging into the harness more, does it look like these are likely the wires that are supposed to go to the socket for the panel light?
Also, the socket for the headlight switch looks like it might also accept a similar bulb that is missing?
_________________ 1984 Westfalia |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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That brown wire is ground. If the other is blue/gray, it's most likely a positive wire, quite possibly for light at lever control panel. The light bulb socket for lever control panel is narrow and black.
If your van has, or had, the 12 volt "silver socket", the wires you show might've been for that.
If that gray looking wire is on the dash light 58b circuit, the head light switch has to be on and dimmer turned up before you'd see 12 volts at it.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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LBC28730 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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Vanagon Nut wrote: |
That brown wire is ground. If the other is blue/gray, it's most likely a positive wire, quite possibly for light at lever control panel. The light bulb socket for lever control panel is narrow and black.
If your van has, or had, the 12 volt "silver socket", the wires you show might've been for that.
If that gray looking wire is on the dash light 58b circuit, the head light switch has to be on and dimmer turned up before you'd see 12 volts at it.
Neil. |
Makes sense.
I DO still have the DIN Plug power socket and it's still hot.
I tried adjusting the dimmer and still didn't see power at that end. May have to trace it back and see where it actually goes.
I was thinking it was the right color but, I am not always great with colors, haha.
I found the socket for the rear heater control lighting so I am assuming it is the same.
Is there supposed to be a bulb in that light switch socket, on the left? _________________ 1984 Westfalia |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3581 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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LBC28730 wrote: |
Vanagon Nut wrote: |
That brown wire is ground. If the other is blue/gray, it's most likely a positive wire, quite possibly for light at lever control panel. The light bulb socket for lever control panel is narrow and black.
If your van has, or had, the 12 volt "silver socket", the wires you show might've been for that.
If that gray looking wire is on the dash light 58b circuit, the head light switch has to be on and dimmer turned up before you'd see 12 volts at it.
Neil. |
Makes sense.
I DO still have the DIN Plug power socket and it's still hot.
I tried adjusting the dimmer and still didn't see power at that end. May have to trace it back and see where it actually goes.
I was thinking it was the right color but, I am not always great with colors, haha.
I found the socket for the rear heater control lighting so I am assuming it is the same.
Is there supposed to be a bulb in that light switch socket, on the left? |
Both switches( Rear and Front heater) and the Slider control will have bulbs and sockets normally. I bought the LED bulbs offered by GoWesty as a set of 3 to match when new. They are a bit dimmer than the stock 1.2 watt incandescent bulbs that were in there before, but hopefully will last a lot longer. The slider is a tight fit between the cables and controls. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6832 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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Here's a new bulb and socket.
https://www.vancafe.com/321919039-p/321919039.htm _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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LBC28730 Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2021 Posts: 78 Location: NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: 83 Vanagon Heater Control lighting wiring |
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jlrftype7 wrote: |
LBC28730 wrote: |
Vanagon Nut wrote: |
That brown wire is ground. If the other is blue/gray, it's most likely a positive wire, quite possibly for light at lever control panel. The light bulb socket for lever control panel is narrow and black.
If your van has, or had, the 12 volt "silver socket", the wires you show might've been for that.
If that gray looking wire is on the dash light 58b circuit, the head light switch has to be on and dimmer turned up before you'd see 12 volts at it.
Neil. |
Makes sense.
I DO still have the DIN Plug power socket and it's still hot.
I tried adjusting the dimmer and still didn't see power at that end. May have to trace it back and see where it actually goes.
I was thinking it was the right color but, I am not always great with colors, haha.
I found the socket for the rear heater control lighting so I am assuming it is the same.
Is there supposed to be a bulb in that light switch socket, on the left? |
Both switches( Rear and Front heater) and the Slider control will have bulbs and sockets normally. I bought the LED bulbs offered by GoWesty as a set of 3 to match when new. They are a bit dimmer than the stock 1.2 watt incandescent bulbs that were in there before, but hopefully will last a lot longer. The slider is a tight fit between the cables and controls. |
Gotcha. Is there also a bulb in the headlight switch?
It looks as though it may be missing.
Excellent, thanks.
I have a friend with a graveyard that I bet I can get a couple from! _________________ 1984 Westfalia |
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