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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am    Post subject: 86 Westy - 92s sidewall good enough? Reply with quote

Hi,

My neighbors are contemplating a drive from Wisconsin to California in a 86 Westy with Toyo Eclipse tires that have a 92S sidewall rating. 92 = 1392 lbs. S speed rating is fine - obviously Wink.

I've run toyo eclipses on my golf and jetta, but I have always looked for a 99xl or stronger for my 91 vanagon.

I don't want to freak my neighbors out unnecessarily, but if this is a legit safety concern I would like to raise it with them.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

westfalexia wrote:
Hi,

My neighbors are contemplating a drive from Wisconsin to California in a 86 Westy with Toyo Eclipse tires that have a 92S sidewall rating. 92 = 1392 lbs. S speed rating is fine - obviously Wink.

I've run toyo eclipses on my golf and jetta, but I have always looked for a 99xl or stronger for my 91 vanagon.

I don't want to freak my neighbors out unnecessarily, but if this is a legit safety concern I would like to raise it with them.

Thanks!
alex


That is also a passenger tire rating and needs to be reduced by 9% I believe so it would be 1267 lbs.

Total capacity of 5068 pounds. Many westies weigh that so the tires are imo marginal. YMMV.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

I mean, I'm guessing they'd make it, but I'd swap those tires. Can't imagine the winds in big flat stretches of that drive would be fun and if anything were to happen requiring an emergency maneuver, that'd be sketchy. Safe to say the van would be loaded with road trip gear too?

You could also clear your conscience by saying something.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. That is pretty much what I was thinking. With 2 little kids in the back seat (and the need to install shoulder straps is another issue), they want to be safe. They are new to the world of vanagons though and I don't think they realize that these beasts require a pretty beefy sidwall.

I know that has been a major consideration whenever I've bought tires - and one where you get a range of opinions from "doesn't matter, dude" to "Nicht weniger als eine 102!" depending who you ask.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

I've had both..... the weaker sidewalls are murder in the wind or when an oncoming Semi sucks you into its tail wind!

You don't mention what wheels he is running but sadly the tire options for 14” are severely limited.

I just put on Yokohama 14” Y356 in large part because of the sidewall strength.

I'm running a tintop, but I want strong sidewalls. When I'm crossing the Dakotas with their gentle breezes, I want to stay on the asphalt!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

With kids involved I’d try hard to convince them to get better tires. Really hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

The van has the stock steel piano casters on there. I actually really dig that van, it is super original, even the digital clock in the dash works! But for driving across the country with kids... yeah. Different set of considerations.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 86 Westy - 92s sidwall good enough? Reply with quote

Good thread

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=499636&highlight=14%94+tires

Skip to the newer pages, some of the older threads mention tires that are no longer available.

Kam has a lot of 14” tire info too....

http://oldbluesblog.com/files/VanagonTireSpecs.pdf

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