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knewknew Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:44 pm Post subject: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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Does anyone know the difference between an early reinforcement bar ('68-'69) versus a later one ('70-'73)? Are they swappable? _________________ 1970 Squareback |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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As far as I know they are swapable. Without looking in the parts book that is. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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Parts book suggests they are different, starting in '70:
311 805 693
Support - Bumper, front
from Ch. No. 318 000 001 to 319 500 000
311 805 693 A
Support - Bumper, front
from Ch. No. 310 2000 001 |
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knewknew Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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The reason for my question is that I am performing an early bumper to late body conversion.
I managed to modify the brackets with some bending/welding and they fit fairly well.
However, the preexisting reinforcement bar is preventing the bumper brackets from fully reaching the mounting points - even when everything is slid way up against the car.
On the '70 reinforcement bumper, I bent the protruding sheet metal tabs where the screw normally attaches to the old bumper - this gave me some extra movement, but not enough.
Are the early style reinforcement bumpers narrower? shorter? They obviously worked on the '68-'69 models, I just don't know if they are compatible with the later body styles and if this would solve my problem.
Thanks! _________________ 1970 Squareback |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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knewknew wrote: |
The reason for my question is that I am performing an early bumper to late body conversion.
I managed to modify the brackets with some bending/welding and they fit fairly well.
However, the preexisting reinforcement bar is preventing the bumper brackets from fully reaching the mounting points - even when everything is slid way up against the car.
On the '70 reinforcement bumper, I bent the protruding sheet metal tabs where the screw normally attaches to the old bumper - this gave me some extra movement, but not enough.
Are the early style reinforcement bumpers narrower? shorter? They obviously worked on the '68-'69 models, I just don't know if they are compatible with the later body styles and if this would solve my problem.
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If I had to guess, I'd say the legs are probably shorter going off what you're saying. I don't have a 69 bumper reinforcement here, so I really don't know what's different (sold my 69 Square over 10 years ago). _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Roadbeater Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Central Ohio
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bumper Safety Reinforcement Bar: '68-'69 vs '70-'73 Differences? |
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I looked in my parts stash today, the later ones have longer legs than the early ones. _________________ 69 Fastback |
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