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karolp Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:29 pm Post subject: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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Hi i need some input on carb jetting.
Engine is 1755 (90x69 nikasil cylinders), 8,4:1 cr, c35 cam, stock valve heads slightly ported, 009 ignition, 10 deg. btdc static advance.
After initial break in and first 300 km i checked plugs beacuse i have a feeling that it runs a little bit too rich - whilie quickly upshifting at higher 4500-5000 rpms it bangs and fires from exhaust muffler. Otherwise motor runs great.
My carbs are alfa romeo weber 36 idf with 30 venturis and:
f11 tubes
52 idle
135 mains
190 airs
Should i go leaner on mains? bigger air jets? Any advice will be apperciated.
Thats how my plug looks - click the link it should open in new window:
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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If you know what conditions of throttle position and RPM you need more or less fuel I'm pretty good at figuring out how to make the carburetor do that.
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I have had very poor luck guessing what jets somebody else's engine needs beyond a starting point. I'd say you are started already. Should work good enough to drive.
Backfiring on decel is not necessarily a real problem. They always do that, some more than others, and some mufflers do it loud, some keep that quiet.
if severe it is usually an exhaust leak or an excessively short tailpipe is the problem.
And those extendo-cock spark plugs and modern gas both make it real hard to do plug reading.
BUt it can still kinda work.
Gas is more clean so it does not color as fast as old days....so, what you have to do is run the engine "in the condition" you want to check for a good 20-30 seconds, then kill it, pull a plug and look DEEP in there. Might need to find a long hill or whatever and no traffic to even do that.
My guess...that plug says your mixture is correct at least half the time but beyond that who knows. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12740 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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I love my AFR meter. Worth every penny in time spent tuning and confidence that I know what the mixture is at a glance at any rpm and engine load. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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karolp Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:38 am Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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Just FYI i got my engine dyno tested with AFR probe (no graph overlay).
It turns out, that my jetting with 125 mains is at least ok. WOT afr on dyno was 13.2:1 at 4000+ rpms, light load at criuse rpm 16:1 - not too lean?
What do You think on dyno results?
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7219 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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karolp Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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I have vac. porn in ex-alfa 36 idf, and plenty of stock 034 and 205 distributors, but how exactly i Can recurve stock distributor? |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7219 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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karolp wrote: |
I have vac. porn in ex-alfa 36 idf |
That doesnt sound right,,,,,, or does it
karolp wrote: |
and plenty of stock 034 and 205 distributors, but how exactly i Can recurve stock distributor? |
Take one apart and you will soon see how. also, it is much easier to guide you when you know what we´re taking about. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435993 |
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karolp Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Weber 36 IDF jetting |
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First dist i found in my shed. As far as i understand, recurving distributor is about adjusting the max advance limits, changins springs and/or altering weight of those little weights or wahtaever it is called. But figuring exact amount without special machine seems like hit or miss.
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