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markeaton Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2013 Posts: 686 Location: Seacoast NH
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Okie... too funny. |
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johny__utah Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2008 Posts: 426 Location: Arizona/California
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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mine don't leak. CE safaris with Wolfgang seals. I only lock them shut when it rains witch is about 5 days out of a year lol. Desert southwest. _________________ 1956 L31
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12382
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Lind wrote: |
1953-1967, buses were equipped with vent windows that actually work. They will push as much air in your face and cab as you like. Effectively, there is not a huge difference, however, safaris are way cooler. |
Safaris ventilate the bus *much* more effectively than vent wings. Way cooler on a hot day.
Am I the only person who removed safaris from an og safari bus being used as a daily driver bus and got rid of them?
With my second og safari bus (65 westy) I was just... no, it's too much.
Daily driving that in W WA, parked outside, no regrets being safari-free. And it's not like there are many days over 80F there.
If you only drive in nice weather, you might be very happy. Over about 100 it makes it feel hotter to have them open. The Florida guys seem to love them.
They are great if it is 95F.
I have used them more in the ~2.5 years I've been in CA, than the previous 22.5 years I owned the bus. High of 79 expected with sun this afternoon.
To the guy in the UK who says they don't leak, have long have they been installed? Mine didn't leak with NOS seals.
Here's a pic from April 2006. Dry CA rain on the way to Kelley Park shows:
They suck in the rain. Here is my bus in Capitol Forest in November 2006:
The bus is so soggy. Everything is soggy. See the fog in the trees behind Greg. This area is soggy like Wales. Soggier than Swansea. A week or two of them being nice in the summer does not make this worthwhile:
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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My CE's leak but barely. Nothing like the u channel bus boy safaris. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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markeaton Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2013 Posts: 686 Location: Seacoast NH
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Well Clara, like I mentioned, I live on the seacoast of New Hampshire. We do get rain, but many nice days too.
I think to many of the posters, I really have to think about my use. It won't be a daily driver, but more of at night and weekends during the May - Oct to do a little showing off ha-ha.
In that case, they would make sense, and I would store in my garage the remaining months of the years.
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Drew Ogden Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2004 Posts: 329 Location: Elbow Cay, Bahamas
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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They are worth the leaks. If the bus has og windshields, I leave them. If not, and it's a keeper bus, og safaris get installed.....
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markeaton Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2013 Posts: 686 Location: Seacoast NH
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Still trying to learn acronyms. OG is a new one on me ? |
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livingskies Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2020 Posts: 208 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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They do look cool, and may make sense in a hot climate. Although when travelling at higher speed, I'm not sure whether having lots of air blowing at one's body would be all that enjoyable. In a convertible or a vehicle with an opening sun roof, air mainly passes over one's head, which is a different experience entirely.
It never gets hot here - mid to high 90s (35 or so in Celsius) is about as warm as it gets here. So no big incentive to install safaris. |
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2921 Location: San Diego, CA
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earlywesty Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2004 Posts: 2356 Location: In the woods, Ontario
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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livingskies wrote: |
They do look cool, and may make sense in a hot climate. Although when travelling at higher speed, I'm not sure whether having lots of air blowing at one's body would be all that enjoyable. In a convertible or a vehicle with an opening sun roof, air mainly passes over one's head, which is a different experience entirely.
It never gets hot here - mid to high 90s (35 or so in Celsius) is about as warm as it gets here. So no big incentive to install safaris. |
While all the pictures show them open fully, that is only fun at low speed. Opened just a crack is great for high speeds. Just got back from a cruise with them open, its 20C here today. Doesnt have to be hot to use them. |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2037 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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in new mexico - yes!
in new hampshire - no. |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3789 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Funny thing about that, OG has pervaded numerous other vehicle forums of which the subject vehicles never originated in Germany. More often than not it's apparently misused as a sort of slang for "original." |
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markeaton Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2013 Posts: 686 Location: Seacoast NH
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Well, I found out OG and many other ones. Thank you Anchovy. Did not know that dictionary was here. I need to search deeper on the wonderful site. |
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Busstom wrote: |
Funny thing about that, OG has pervaded numerous other vehicle forums of which the subject vehicles never originated in Germany. More often than not it's apparently misused as a sort of slang for "original." |
I could be wrong here but I feel OG was adopted by VW folks and later decided by some to mean "Original German." Personally before I ever heard it in the VW world it was aware of it as an abbreviation for "Original Gangster" meaning an authentic, real deal, old school bad ass. When we used to call our buses OG we meant they weren't restored EMPIed out crap, but I digress..... _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
55 Wolfsburg Kombi
60 Walkthrough Kombi
62 Single Cab
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Damn! PGSG walk through! That has GOT to be a rare bus! _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
55 Wolfsburg Kombi
60 Walkthrough Kombi
62 Single Cab
66 21window
67 so42
76 Westy
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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buseric wrote: |
livingskies wrote: |
They do look cool, and may make sense in a hot climate. Although when travelling at higher speed, I'm not sure whether having lots of air blowing at one's body would be all that enjoyable. In a convertible or a vehicle with an opening sun roof, air mainly passes over one's head, which is a different experience entirely.
It never gets hot here - mid to high 90s (35 or so in Celsius) is about as warm as it gets here. So no big incentive to install safaris. |
While all the pictures show them open fully, that is only fun at low speed. Opened just a crack is great for high speeds. Just got back from a cruise with them open, its 20C here today. Doesnt have to be hot to use them. |
I've always told folks, it's no different then riding a motorcycle......or a rollercoaster! I have been known to blaze down the highway with mine wide open. It's kind of hard to breath at first but you get the hang of it and when you reach your destination everything in your bus has been relocated for you _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
55 Wolfsburg Kombi
60 Walkthrough Kombi
62 Single Cab
66 21window
67 so42
76 Westy
64 Karmann Ghia |
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Patiently Impatient Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2020 Posts: 128 Location: Tri-State
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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Okie Adam wrote: |
Busstom wrote: |
Funny thing about that, OG has pervaded numerous other vehicle forums of which the subject vehicles never originated in Germany. More often than not it's apparently misused as a sort of slang for "original." |
I could be wrong here but I feel OG was adopted by VW folks and later decided by some to mean "Original German." Personally before I ever heard it in the VW world it was aware of it as an abbreviation for "Original Gangster" meaning an authentic, real deal, old school bad ass. When we used to call our buses OG we meant they weren't restored EMPIed out crap, but I digress..... |
This is the correct take. OG = Original Gangster.
Original German was definitely adopted from the west coast meaning of 'OG'.
After all, I highly doubt those rappers/hip hop stars were referring to themselves as "Original Germans" |
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tisius Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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with front safari's, pack a few towels and a roll of tape, and you're good to go _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
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MrPolak Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 1336 Location: AG ,atnaltA
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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To answer the OP question: Yes.
My bus isn't a DD.
It does not have AC.
It's not very OG.
I live in the SE.
They seep a little bit.
Water evaporates.
I think I sweat more than they "leak".
I sweat less when they're open.
I smile more when they're open.
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markeaton Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2013 Posts: 686 Location: Seacoast NH
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Are safari windows worth the leaks? |
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I am grateful to all of the replies and photos. Love this site.
It is still amazing to me, what appears like something so "simple", i.e. rubber or foam seals, that someone far far brighter than me, has not developed a leak solution.
It is of course, the love of the VW and the lifestyle, far outweighs the wiping up of water
I guess living in a house growing up with an engineer (my dad) that I am always looking for the small improvement in things. |
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