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Chickensoup
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 Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:13 pm Post subject: Masterseries paint removal |
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This is among the most annoying feeling I've experienced yet. It's like wearing a triple condom.
Its masterseries silver. I tried acetone. Nope.
Aside from peeling the too layer of skin off my hands, what will take it off?
Thanks
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calvinater
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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16 dollars for gloves does not sound too bad now eh?
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mukluk
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| Chickensoup wrote: |
Its masterseries silver. I tried acetone. Nope.
Aside from peeling the too layer of skin off my hands, what will take it off?
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Note the first warning listed about a third way down: http://www.masterseriescoatings.com/tipsheet.html
Sounds like time and scrubbing is likely the solution, hope you like having silver hands.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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Turn lemons into lemonade.
Try out for a part in the next local "Oz" show.
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| calvinater wrote: |
| 16 dollars for gloves does not sound too bad now eh? |
How do you even remember that number lol
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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It looks like it's starting to fracture. I think time is the only option right now.
I think it feels so terrible because its drawing the moisture out of my skin. Lesson learned.
At least the job is finished.
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'65 Tourist Delivery Build
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
Turn lemons into lemonade.
Try out for a part in the next local "Oz" show.
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Here’s the rest of the story. He got really sick from that silver make up https://oz.fandom.com/wiki/Buddy_Ebsen |
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| Chickensoup wrote: |
This is among the most annoying feeling I've experienced yet. It's like wearing a triple condom.
Its masterseries silver. I tried acetone. Nope.
Aside from peeling the too layer of skin off my hands, what will take it off?
Thanks |
If you live to be very old you’ll be doing good with all the chemical exposures. |
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calvinater
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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At least your fingers won't rust! 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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That’s an aromatic polyisocyanate.
Translation, nasty shit.
Don’t do that. Seriously.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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Yes.....master series is a urthane paint. Its magic is that it absorbs moisture and oxygen to crosslink. It steals it from the rust wherever it encounters it.....and it has a high loading of aluminum which is an astringent that helps to dehumidify left over moisture.
Yep....not good for you but a single coating like thst is not going to kill you.
Outside of certain EXACT uses.....acetone is one of the most worthless solvents. This paint is NOT an epoxy......if it were....acetone would work well.
You need a solvent that is non-polar......a solvent that is not co-solvent with water. This means that acetone and the vast majority of alcohols will not be useful.
You can use laquer thinner or MEK. There are others.....but these are easy to get. They will dry your skin. But thats fixable.
Wet a rag with MEK or laquer thinner and soak your hand for about a minute. Wipe off the paint with another rag,wet with solvent. Wear gloves on the hand you are cleaning with or it will just transfer from the rag to your other hand. Ray |
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Abscate
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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Since feelings dont matter, use a Porter Cable and a Flap Disk..
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Chickensoup
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Since feelings dont matter, use a Porter Cable and a Flap Disk.. |
I already tried that sort of. I used 220 grit. Its helped some but not enough. Wasnt even painful.
I could always use the torch 
Also, raygreenwood, would you happen to know of a specific solvent with non polar bonds? Theres some on the concrete I need to remove. As well as my shoes lol.
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vntgvw
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Masterseries paint removal |
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| Please don't soak your hand in a solvent. Solvents will be absorbed through your skin and could be harmful to your organs such as your liver and kidneys. Look up the Safety Data Sheets for any solvent before exposing yourself to it. Using a solvent may only make a bad situation worse. |
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Masterseries paint removal |
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| I don't want to know the damage I did handling photographic chemicals with my bare hands for years. Berryman's B-12 and Chem-Dip were probably not a good idea, either... |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Masterseries paint removal |
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| Please don't soak your hand in a solvent. Solvents will be absorbed through your skin and could be harmful to your organs such as your liver and kidneys. Look up the Safety Data Sheets for any solvent before exposing yourself to it. Using a solvent may only make a bad situation worse. |
Its not a real issue with the two solvents I mentioned. Through the hand....you would need to soak for quite a while. This will take minutes at most. Also MEK flashes off in seconds.
I just did the entire front end of my car in this paint back in the fall. I have good experience with it
Also I probably work with more chemicals and have and do more haz-mat training than about 99% of the people in thee forums.
Factually MEK is less of a risk than Lacquer thinner....because lacquer thinner is a blend and is more toxic...but it takes more applications of MEK because it flashes off much faster.
So basically use paper towels, wet with MEK....wipe as much as you can and you will notice that at some point you are just spreading it around. Discard towel and start again Your hand will be dry in seconds between each wipe.
When you get it down to lightly stained skin.....use a fingernail brush or scotch brite and dishwashing soap.
The most toxic thing that you could use...that works partially....is methanol or denatured alcohol. Because of its polarity and affinity for water...it soaks right into skin and is very toxic.
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| I don't want to know the damage I did handling photographic chemicals with my bare hands for years. Berryman's B-12 and Chem-Dip were probably not a good idea, either... |
Yes...decades of photochemical usage for me...and still. I was lucky ....I was pretty damn careful early on in darkrooms and in labs. But 35+ years in printing plants.....damn. I have no illusions of what may be coming.
Now....Chem dip....keep your damn hands out of that! That used to be...mainly methylene chloride....very f*cking bad for you.
Berrymans chemtool....yes...guilty here as well. Its a bit better for you than lacquer thinner...but is still a nasty blend. Great product though!
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Masterseries paint removal |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
| When you get it down to lightly stained skin.....use a fingernail brush or scotch brite and dishwashing soap. |
I also used Lava brand bar soap that was gritty and worked well with a nail brush. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Paint removal |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Since feelings dont matter, use a Porter Cable and a Flap Disk.. |
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