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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:29 pm    Post subject: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

This was on Copart auction site in Van Nuys CA., anyone have any info on it?

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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buseric wrote:
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They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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buseric wrote:
Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.


Would the tag they have pictured be correct or possibly transplanted?
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

HerbieDave wrote:
peecee69 wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
buseric wrote:
Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.


Would the tag they have pictured be correct or possibly transplanted?


Looks like a brand new rivet. Mine all have flat head screws holding it on.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

AS350driver wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
peecee69 wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
buseric wrote:
Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.


Would the tag they have pictured be correct or possibly transplanted?


Looks like a brand new rivet. Mine all have flat head screws holding it on.


Your tag is screwed on at the air box? That seems odd.

But I agree, that tag does not look right. It almost looks plastic.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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it is a high hinge cargo door bus. German buses had those to 61. Brazilian buses to the end of production. This is absolutely a brazilian bus.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

The outline in the paint from the previous shorter tag is also a clue. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

peecee69 wrote:
AS350driver wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
peecee69 wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
buseric wrote:
Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.


Would the tag they have pictured be correct or possibly transplanted?


Looks like a brand new rivet. Mine all have flat head screws holding it on.


Your tag is screwed on at the air box? That seems odd.

But I agree, that tag does not look right. It almost looks plastic.



You’re right, I was thinking about the tag on my 64 deluxe that’s in the engine bay.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

HerbieDave wrote:
peecee69 wrote:
HerbieDave wrote:
buseric wrote:
Brazilian


They had it listed as a 1964


Brazil had buses from 1957 on. They produced splits up until 1975.


Would the tag they have pictured be correct or possibly transplanted?


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This is a strange position for that style of tag as that shape is usually in the engine compartment but maybe that's normal for Brazilian Buses?
The rivets are definitely new.
I can see it has a "BH" serial number, which is Brazilian, so it could be the original tag.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

That bus isn't a 1964 Brazilian bus. Closer to a 1974. The early brazilian busses look more correct like German busses. Wide lip doglegs, Outie vents, flat rear wheel wells, pointed Speedo pod, but with pressed bumpers.
This one has the pressed vw logo in the nose. Makes it a late Brazilian.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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That bus isn't a 1964 Brazilian bus. Closer to a 1974. The early brazilian busses look more correct like German busses. Wide lip doglegs, Outie vents, flat rear wheel wells, pointed Speedo pod, but with pressed bumpers.
This one has the pressed vw logo in the nose. Makes it a late Brazilian.


Yep. Obvious Brazilian. That, and a KM speedo, plus all the other things everyone else has brought up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

Just below that tag looks to be where a shorter tag would have originally been attached. It had been painted over at some point and removed leaving that old paint edge. Suppose that tag could be original to the bus, but not at that location.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

I wonder why it was at copart in the 1st place???
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

What's going on with the one window?
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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What's going on with the one window?

That's pretty normal for brazilian busses. Even German busses without the option of 6 popouts. Most deluxe busses were used to seeing here in the US have the 6 popout package.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

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What's going on with the one window?

That's pretty normal for brazilian busses. Even German busses without the option of 6 popouts. Most deluxe busses were used to seeing here in the US have the 6 popout package.


I think he means the lack of a rear window.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

No defroster vents on the dash, either.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone know/seen this 23 window on Copart auction site? Reply with quote

This bus just sold on Barret Jackson last night.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1964-VOLKSWAGEN-23-WINDOW-BUS-249046
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