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VeloMikey
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 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| Tasb, I don't give a crap about the badge or any of that. I just want the best distributor for my particular set up & something I'm not going to have pay $375 for so yes, cheap. I'll get with you later on particulars but I think you already have them for my engine. 1915 w/009 now. |
You want cheap and works... keep.your 009. |
I have close to $500 in my rebuilt 010. That includes the purchase price out of the classifieds and for Glenn to rebuild it with a new cap, rotor, points and condenser. The 010 is much better than a 009 with a Pertronics module. The motor hits harder, revs quicker and runs smoother. The only problem in 10,000 miles is the green wire condenser took a dump very early on. You have to pay if you want to play.
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Glenn 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| VeloMikey wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| vdubrookie wrote: |
| Tasb, I don't give a crap about the badge or any of that. I just want the best distributor for my particular set up & something I'm not going to have pay $375 for so yes, cheap. I'll get with you later on particulars but I think you already have them for my engine. 1915 w/009 now. |
You want cheap and works... keep.your 009. |
I have close to $500 in my rebuilt 010. That includes the purchase price out of the classifieds and for Glenn to rebuild it with a new cap, rotor, points and condenser. The 010 is much better than a 009 with a Pertronics module. The motor hits harder, revs quicker and runs smoother. The only problem in 10,000 miles is the yellow wire condenser took a dump very early on. You have to pay if you want to play. |
Budget is always a factor.
I just built a 1776 for a customer and when I originally priced the parts it was beyond his budget. So get some cheaper heads, dual single barrels instead of IDFs and a few other cost savings including keeping is old 009.
I'm sure he'll be happy with the 75-80hp, but he would of been happier with 85-90hp.
CHEAP - FAST - RELIABLE
You can pick only two of the above.
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Question for the Gurus on the VJ 4 BR 8. Took mine apart to do a through cleaning and noted that the spring adjuster plate is in the least tension position, Normal? Should I use motor oil, gun oil, WD40, Vaseline on moving parts besides the rub block knowing It is backup distributor? Or should I light oil reassemble and install for a short run. Thanks |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Generally it's say the lightest setting is not normal, but without having it in my shop I can't say 110%.
Engine oil is fine.
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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tasb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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In general bring the assembly to it's greatest tension and then let up a smidge but who wants to define a smidge for us?
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Glenn
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| tasb wrote: |
| In general bring the assembly to it's greatest tension and then let up a smidge but who wants to define a smidge for us? |
Too much tension moves the curve up the rpm range. Too little makes it not return to zero at idle.
That's why you need a distributor tester when you rebuild distributors. Otherwise you have no idea what it will do.
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tasb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Exactly!
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Got it put back together going to put it in the bus tomorrow and dwell and time it. Any way of figuring if my spring tension is good with a timing light and a tach? |
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tasb
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Cumbersome but yes. How many arms/hands have you got?
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| tasb wrote: |
| Cumbersome but yes. How many arms/hands have you got? |
I have full use of both my hands  So what do I shoot for, all advance in by say, 3000 rpm, half advance in by 2000? Just asking the experts what is within spec for the VJ 4 BR 8, Thanks |
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tasb
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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no time to search for you this am, look for a curve chart for an "019".
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Glenn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Mechanical curve is the same as a VJU4BR8 and 019.
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Thanks Glenn, exactly what I was looking for |
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bsairhead
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Dwell was at 52, adjusted the eccentric screw to get 48. Timed at all in to 30 degrees and drove it around the block 2 miles. Ran great, put the light on it and the tach. I am all in at 3000 rpm. In my opinion supper smooth, like butter. Should I adjust my spring plate? |
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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| Glenn wrote: |
Mechanical curve is the same as a VJU4BR8 and 019.
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Is the 4 degree of variance typical? Are most in the middle? What do you aim for or just call it good if in the area described? |
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tasb
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Yes, most official curve charts have a +,- allowance of @ 3 degrees. The answer to the second question depends upon who is working on the distributor.
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EVfun
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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Flat cap. The taller one can actually be installed on a VJ distributor but was designed for Goliath [snip] |
Resurrecting an old thread. What was the Goliath (or other) applications for that tall side exit cap that fits on the 019? I have a nearly full roll of 7mm solid copper core ignition wire. An old school looking cap and resistor ends at the plugs might be kinda cool. The 019 is hanging out on a buggy with a basically stock 1600 single port.
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earthquake
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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I want some body to ID this Cast Iron VW distributor I bought off a forum member here...
I installed a set of Corvette points and condenser, I put a Moroso adjustable vacuum advance canister on [I am going to cut it down so it doesn't stick out so far, its made for a HEI dis.] I found a cap for sale it but don't remember what it fits, you can use springs and weights for a GM distributor to change the advance but I have not picked any up. one of these days I will poke it in my car and see how it runs.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Same as 010 and 019 Distributors |
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It'a a modified GM distributor.
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