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neilchouker Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2020 Posts: 6 Location: katy texas
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 8:52 am Post subject: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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Hello everyone
I heard california is going to be all electric vehicles in 2035
I wanted to get as much support and feedback as possible
anybody out there interested in a plug and play system that gets you 100 miles safe and top speed 100mhp 8 hours charging system
easy conversion,universal tesla tech .easy to install how many are willing to switch?
This is going to be a game changer to the vw community'
right now I have seen 18k-52k its crazy and expensive but now there is an option and its going thru development and testing
would love to see your ideas and support on this topic |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33879 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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100 miles is nowhere near good enough. 200 is about what I get from a tank, but instead of an 8 hour charge, I take a 15 minute gas stop.
$10K? For what?
Cheaper to vote out the clowns that try to make my perfectly legal car illegal. |
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AirHead1966 Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2019 Posts: 561 Location: Triad Area NC
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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neilchouker wrote: |
Hello everyone
I heard california is going to be all electric vehicles in 2035
I wanted to get as much support and feedback as possible
anybody out there interested in a plug and play system that gets you 100 miles safe and top speed 100mhp 8 hours charging system
easy conversion,universal tesla tech .easy to install how many are willing to switch?
This is going to be a game changer to the vw community'
right now I have seen 18k-52k its crazy and expensive but now there is an option and its going thru development and testing
would love to see your ideas and support on this topic |
I would be very interested. Having said that, I should point out that the reason in your pitch for conversion is not accurate. Any new regulation will not apply to old cars and there will be a ton of exceptions. Your old classic cars will be fine as they are. Also just "hearing" about something is not a reason to take drastic measures.
Nonetheless, I would buy the conversion kit at that price. I would even convert few of non-VW classic cars for that price,. |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13247 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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nothing like a Katy Texas person to want to talk about California and still get it wrong
no NEW gasoline vehicles after 2035 am I right? |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33879 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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olspeed Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2008 Posts: 489 Location: In the shadow of Denali, I still don't give a damn how they do it outside
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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Once again no infrastructure... it's 80 miles from my front door to the next large town and the only plug-in would be at a friends house if he would agree to let me use it, and yes I know he would but I am sure that it would get old fast. Then what happens in the fall when it's colder but still drivable with my classic car... up here that can mean it's below 32'f. Just how much battery it it going to take to keep you warm. Right now you do see Tesla's and even Volt's on the road but only in the big towns where they can keep them charged at home and you Never see them out in below 0'f weather, our road systems don't even have electricity running completely along it as some of the stations have their own generators(gas or diesel) to keep the lights and pumps on. _________________ 66- Ghia
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Patiently Impatient Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2020 Posts: 128 Location: Tri-State
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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neilchouker wrote: |
Hello Everyone |
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I heard california is going to be all electric vehicles in 2035 |
No, they will not be all electric in 2035.
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in a plug and play system |
It's not exactly plug and play, a significant amount of stuff needs to be done.
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gets you 100 miles safe |
100 miles is not a great range, at all.
100mph in a vw bus requires a LOT of work to be done safely, not just a drivetrain swap
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8 hours charging system |
LOL who wants to deal with this after a 100 mile trip?
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easy conversion,universal tesla tech .easy to install |
Not easy conversion, easy to install maybe if you're the shop owner charging for it.
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how many are willing to switch? |
Not as many as you probably think
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This is going to be a game changer to the vw community' |
No it will not
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would love to see your ideas and support on this topic |
See above |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15129 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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essentially ditto this..
Patiently Impatient wrote: |
neilchouker wrote: |
Hello Everyone |
Hi
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I heard california is going to be all electric vehicles in 2035 |
No, they will not be all electric in 2035.
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in a plug and play system |
It's not exactly plug and play, a significant amount of stuff needs to be done.
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gets you 100 miles safe |
100 miles is not a great range, at all.
100mph in a vw bus requires a LOT of work to be done safely, not just a drivetrain swap
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8 hours charging system |
LOL who wants to deal with this after a 100 mile trip?
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easy conversion,universal tesla tech .easy to install |
Not easy conversion, easy to install maybe if you're the shop owner charging for it.
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how many are willing to switch? |
Not as many as you probably think
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This is going to be a game changer to the vw community' |
No it will not
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would love to see your ideas and support on this topic |
See above |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8688 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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250 mile range minimum. And no way it can be done for $10K unless the parts are free. Just the batteries are $10K right now, and that is after buying them in quantity directly from China. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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Erik G wrote: |
nothing like a Katy Texas person to want to talk about California and still get it wrong
no NEW gasoline vehicles after 2035 am I right? |
Thank you, Erik. _________________ .ssS! |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15279 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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NO.
250 mile rang minimum.
1 hr charge time maximum.
There is no reason to drive 100 MPH.
Under $2500 maybe. $10K hell no. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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The reason I like my car is because it has almost nothing electrical except for lights, and a spark generator.
Grease and metal. |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5446 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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I've done 3 electric VW conversions. All with DC motor. The first was old school lead acid powered (Optima batteries) and had a 20 mile range. This was back in 1999. The second was a golf cart battery powered VW Caddy, lowered and decked out in Rabbit GTI trim. Slow as the diesel version, but a 60 mile range. The last was a Lithium powered Mini-T buggy. Hard to hide batteries in a buggy, but light and nimble for 35 miles. 200 lb of battery and about 1200 lb total.
Modern batteries can give a more range while being purchased for wrecking yard prices. Still, the Bug body is all curves and not a great place to hide rectangular batteries. I think you will be doing good if you can get reliably over 100 mile range. That is actually enough for many people. My other car is a 2004 Tacoma pickup I bought new. It still has just shy of 64 thousand miles on it when I got home from work today. _________________
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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EverettB wrote: |
Reality check:
Anything done now is a waste of time.
I GUARANTEE things will be completely different in 2035, that's 14 years from now.
I'd be surprised if we even had the same battery systems. |
100% agree!
And if someone even offered to convert any of my cars to electric for FREE, I'd pass. _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
OG member of the '67 Posse
A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Reality check:
Anything done now is a waste of time.
I GUARANTEE things will be completely different in 2035, that's 14 years from now.
I'd be surprised if we even had the same battery systems. |
100% agree!
And if someone even offered to convert any of my cars to electric for FREE, I'd pass. |
And FWIW I would consider it for my Bus if I can drive it like a normal car and to long-distance events without large delays for recharging stops
Not for $10K but I'm not concerned about that either, prices will drop like all technologies do. _________________ How to Post Photos
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cbeck Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2014 Posts: 2494 Location: high ridge, mo
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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Already rolling blackouts. Now everybody will want to do a quick charge. Grid won't handle it. Any benifits to electric cars will by wiped out by upgrading the grid.
Engineer/Architect famous last words, what do you mean that won't work? _________________ My cut in half and rebuild thread
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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cbeck wrote: |
Already rolling blackouts. Now everybody will want to do a quick charge. Grid won't handle it. Any benifits to electric cars will by wiped out by upgrading the grid.
Engineer/Architect famous last words, what do you mean that won't work? |
When you get to 300 mile range, you’ve hit the mark for the average weekly commuter, a large market. They can drive to work, school, errands and charge once per week at night on off peak rates.
Not only can the grid handle it, it is easily adapted to it. _________________ .ssS! |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12454
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Will you convert your vw to electric under 10K??? |
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Abscate wrote: |
cbeck wrote: |
Already rolling blackouts. Now everybody will want to do a quick charge. Grid won't handle it. Any benifits to electric cars will by wiped out by upgrading the grid.
Engineer/Architect famous last words, what do you mean that won't work? |
When you get to 300 mile range, you’ve hit the mark for the average weekly commuter, a large market. They can drive to work, school, errands and charge once per week at night on off peak rates.
Not only can the grid handle it, it is easily adapted to it. |
Ok check this out. You can go 300 miles and tow up to 10,000 pounds. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36433090/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-specs-revealed/ |
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