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AWOL Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:25 pm Post subject: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Hello all,
Who knows what kind of curtains ‘74-‘75 Westfalia’s had? As the ones that I have in mine appear to be the original ones, but they are thinner than the ones that came in the later Westy’s.
And if they are indeed thinner and different, does anyone know where to get these early Westy T2b curtains? As I need to replace one as it’s so brittle due to UV or so that it completely pulverizes when you touch it.
Thanks. _________________ ‘69 panelvan
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55 ragger Samba Member
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AWOL Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Many thanks 55 ragger. Those are brilliant, just are curtains for a VW T2a. Ours is a ‘75 T2b with green curtains. Just not the thick ones are which they came with later, from ‘76 on. I maybe wasn’t specific enough.
Therefore again, does anyone know if these thinner curtains were original and different in early T2b Westfalia’s. And if so does anyone know where one can get these? As only one curtain needs replacing.
It’s the left side rear one, behind the cabinet. It’s complete falling apart due to always being in the sun as you don’t slide it back.
Thanks. _________________ ‘69 panelvan
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55 ragger Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Ok AWOL
School me ? What Is
Type 2B ? |
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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55 ragger wrote: |
Ok AWOL
School me ? What Is
Type 2B ? |
T2b aka “Late bay” 72 and up. However my 1972 T2b would have had the plaid curtains in your link. When do we talk about color, yarn gauge, weave or knit, materiel, and thread count. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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AWOL. Try these guys. Might not be perfect but close enough.
https://nlavw.com/search?controller=search&s=Curtains+ _________________ Keep on Busin'
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55 ragger Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Thanks AWOL
Good to know ! |
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AWOL Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Great tip Xevin, thanks! Now the question came up on what the original color of the curtains in our bus is. It’s a Ravenna green Westfalia bus. Some people also call it Bali or Yosemite yellow I think. With the blue/ green plaid Düsseldorf interior. I suppose the curtains are green in that and not the so called barley yellow. Does anyone know what’s original?
Xevin, interesting your bus has the white yellow and brown curtains if its an T2b. Or is it an early T2a/b? And a hard top or pop top hinged in the back? Sure those curtains are the originals?
55 ragger, to add to the types info, T2 or bay window busses from ‘67-‘71 are T2a, ‘72 was a transition year where the busses had a new back (of the T2b), but still the front of the T2a, therefore called the T2a/b and from roughly ‘73 till ‘79 it was the T2b.
Anyone correct me if I am wrong. _________________ ‘69 panelvan
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richparker Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Damn...guess I should have checked the classifieds for these when I was redoing my bus. I bought a repop set from BD for twice that price. 😳 _________________ __________
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55 ragger Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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AWOL
Ok thanks for information
I pick up our bus in 2019 I’m enjoying the ride !
1975 Bay all original . Almost anyway! |
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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AWOL wrote: |
Great tip Xevin, thanks! Now the question came up on what the original color of the curtains in our bus is. It’s a Ravenna green Westfalia bus. Some people also call it Bali or Yosemite yellow I think. With the blue/ green plaid Düsseldorf interior. I suppose the curtains are green in that and not the so called barley yellow. Does anyone know what’s original?
Xevin, interesting your bus has the white yellow and brown curtains if its an T2b. Or is it an early T2a/b? And a hard top or pop top hinged in the back? Sure those curtains are the originals?
55 ragger, to add to the types info, T2 or bay window busses from ‘67-‘71 are T2a, ‘72 was a transition year where the busses had a new back (of the T2b), but still the front of the T2a, therefore called the T2a/b and from roughly ‘73 till ‘79 it was the T2b.
Anyone correct me if I am wrong. |
Never heard the term Type 2 A/B I do trust the knowledge posted in this link. I’m “Pretty sure” the plaid color is original to my 72 Westphalia Campmobile. I’m basing that on how many 1972 Sierra Yellow campers I’ve seen with the same plaid curtains as mine. VW did some whacky and inconsistent things from year to year, Type 2 A/B wouldn’t surprise me.
https://www.justkampers.com/us/vehicles/index/info/id/3/ _________________ Keep on Busin'
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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The plaid ones were used until 73, 74-75 had a solid color in orange or green, reasonably thick too just like the later models, same time the laminate color got darker.
Where's Notchboy?, Jason is the 74/75 Guru. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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busdaddy wrote: |
The plaid ones were used until 73, 74-75 had a solid color in orange or green, reasonably thick too just like the later models, same time the laminate color got darker.
Where's Notchboy?, Jason is the 74/75 Guru. |
I almost typed your name 3 times to get in here
Have you ever heard the term Type 2 a/b for a 72? _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin... |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6937 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Xevin wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
The plaid ones were used until 73, 74-75 had a solid color in orange or green, reasonably thick too just like the later models, same time the laminate color got darker.
Where's Notchboy?, Jason is the 74/75 Guru. |
I almost typed your name 3 times to get in here
Have you ever heard the term Type 2 a/b for a 72? |
I have. ‘69-‘71 is a T2a and ‘72-‘79 is a T2b. It changes with the addition of the T4 and the D scoops. I get ‘72 is a one year only, but so was a ‘68 and ‘71. _________________ __________
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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richparker wrote: |
Xevin wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
The plaid ones were used until 73, 74-75 had a solid color in orange or green, reasonably thick too just like the later models, same time the laminate color got darker.
Where's Notchboy?, Jason is the 74/75 Guru. |
I almost typed your name 3 times to get in here
Have you ever heard the term Type 2 a/b for a 72? |
I have. ‘69-‘71 is a T2a and ‘72-‘79 is a T2b. It changes with the addition of the T4 and the D scoops. I get ‘72 is a one year only, but so was a ‘68 and ‘71. |
Rich, I’m talking about a 72 being a “Type 2 a/b” nether a type 2a or type 2b but Type 2 a/b as it’s own model. Does that make sense? _________________ Keep on Busin'
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richparker Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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I would say it’s a T2b with its T4 engine and large tail lights. I guess you could call it whatever you’d like, as 99.9% of the people won’t know the difference. _________________ __________
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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I've heard that description before, it's usually used by those Brits when "crossover" just doesn't cut it. Maybe other Europeans use it as well, I guess it makes them feel they have something exclusive and rare? I've always thought type 2a was a splitty and b was a bay, or is a split a type 1 but not the Beetle kind?, I'm sooooo confused.
More curtain stuff here: https://www.vwbusshop.de/epages/GuenzlClassicParts...2/Gardinen _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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AWOL Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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Busdaddy, thanks as I am not sure if the bus came with green or these so called Barley yellow curtains. I mean the Ravenna green or Bali yellow busses were all a bit different. Also with the pop up tents, which were originally more yellowish green unlike any other Westfalia’s.
I found a piece of, what I think is, original colored curtain behind the rear side cabinet and it appears to not be green, but more towards that barley yellow. If only someone knows what these busses had originally. As I like to have it like the original.
On the type indications. The Germans called them like that and this is what it says translated from German:
T2a (August 1967 to July 1971)
The very first series of the T2a was built from August 1967 to August 1968. From August 1968 to mid-1971 this T2a, which had only been modified in a few technical details, was continued to be built. This model series can be recognized by the successor model (T2 a / b) on the front section with the indicators below and the side running boards on the bumper as well as on the rounded rear section with the oval tail lights. The geometry of the open rear frame group of the T2a corresponds to that of the T1, but has been slightly lengthened at the front and rear. A large part of this model series, and especially those with the popular Westfalia equipment, were primarily sold on the US market. There, like the VW "Beetle", it became a popular symbol of the local flower power movement.
T2a / b (model year 1972) edit
(August 1971 to July 1972)
This type is a hybrid form as an intermediate model with body parts of both the T2a and the T2b (large taillights, indicators at the bottom front, larger "ears" for air intake of the engine, disc brakes at the front). He is also often referred to as a hermaphrodite in the VW Bulli scene.
T2b (August 1972 to July 1979)
What I didn’t know is that the even later built Brazilian and Mexican models are indicated with T2c.
I am not sure if T2a/b’s were ever officially exported to the USA by Volkswagen.
There you have it. It is what it is. _________________ ‘69 panelvan
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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When I was a kid, we had a 74 Westy from new. It was Yellow/green exterior. The curtains were a cotton yellow plaid that many vendors show as an early bay or split. The cotton ones did not hold up well and were in bad shape by the time I totaled the bus in 1985. My second bus was a 1978 Westfalia which I still have that uses a synthetic material solid green curtain material. Aside from some fading, it has held up very well over the last 34 years that I have had the bus.
In 2000, I bought another 74 Westy just like my first. It had home made curtains which I replaced with the later green version. Looked great.
Here's a pic of the bus on a Baja trip
_________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1989 T3 Syncro Single cab
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia ‘74-‘75 curtains |
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I bought a set for my '71 from the guy in Canada who has a listing here in the classifieds. They are spot-on perfect. I highly suggest you check him out. I would look to VWNLA for what was there to start. I find them to be a good reference. |
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