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ozark23
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 Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: New Carb or Rebuild |
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So got a new tank for our recently acquired thing.....ours is rusty, clogged everything after a few days of driving and stalls out.
So Amazon has a new carb fo $65 or rebuild kit for $28
Do I rebuild or buy the one on Amazon? Anybody have experience?
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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if you have a german Solex rebuild it for sure. Amazon carbs go in the trash.
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Semper_Dad
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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If it's a German 34-3 you can have it rebuilt by Tim at Volkbitz. He will rebuild, rebush, and he can tap and thread the fuel inlet for you.
https://www.volkzbitz.com/
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| if the carb isn't completely thrashed just rebuild it yourself with a quality kit. No need to send it off & pay a fortune if the shaft & bushings are already in good shape. |
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Glenn 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| consvws wrote: |
| pay a fortune |
You must be living in the 60s if you think $200 is a fortune.
On Long Island, the local Chevy dealership is charging $205/hr for labor alone.
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| pay a fortune |
You must be living in the 60s if you thing that's a fortune. |
it is compared to replacing a pump diaphragm or a float valve. I haven't seen his existing carb. Go ahead and do a redundant rebuild if it gives you piece of mind. Again, I haven't seen what he's working with. I'm not saying Tim's work is not worth it by any means. he OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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just unbolt it ( don't even look at it) and send it off for rebuild   |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts.
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts. |
ok you got me. send your distributor to Glenn also as it probably needs a rebuild too.
sorry for my suggestion. |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| consvws wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts. |
ok you got me. send your distributor to Glenn also as it probably needs a rebuild too.
sorry for my suggestion. |
Sure go ahead. VW never planed on them being used for 50 years. And if they didn't need to be serviced they wouldn't of made rebuild parts.
BTW, "rebuild" means different things to different people. Some thing taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together is a rebuild. Others measure all the parts for wear. They have the knowledge, tools and quality parts to rebush and replace worn parts. They also have the specialized tools to test the part so they know it works as good as or better than new.
I would say that a "correctly" rebuild part will work BETTER than new since it's been blueprinted and not assembled on a factory assembly line.
It's the same difference between having a Mercedes V8 and one built by AMG.
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consvws
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts. |
ok you got me. send your distributor to Glenn also as it probably needs a rebuild too.
sorry for my suggestion. |
Sure go ahead. VW never planed on them being used for 50 years. And if they didn't need to be serviced they wouldn't of made rebuild parts.
BTW, "rebuild" means different things to different people. Some thing taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together is a rebuild. Others measure all the parts for wear. They have the knowledge, tools and quality parts to rebush and replace worn parts. They also have the specialized tools to test the part so they know it works as good as or better than new.
I would say that a "correctly" rebuild part will work BETTER than new since it's been blueprinted and not assembled on a factory assembly line.
It's the same difference between having a Mercedes V8 and one built by AMG. |
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FJBLF
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This is the procedure for my 30 PICT 1 but the procedures for most of our carbs are simmilar. I hope you find it useful.
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kpf
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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Back to the question at hand...
| ozark23 wrote: |
| Do I rebuild or buy the one on Amazon? |
If your existing carburetor is original, then definitely rebuild it (or have it rebuilt...). On the other hand, if your existing carburetor is an aftermarket copy, then search the classifieds or elsewhere for an original, buy that, and rebuild that one.
In summary: When it comes to VW carburetors, original is good. Aftermarket is bad.
Good luck!
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ozark23
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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THanks everyone....I was 98.7% sure the ones on Amazon are Trash....and this one was running great until the rust clogged up the filter and the carb....it is original so Ima take a run at rebuilding/cleaning it---I mean I can change the clutch in my split bus, so I guess I can figure this out....I watched a Youtube video on rebuilding and it looks harder to clean 40 years of Junk off of the outside than the rebuild....
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kent70ghia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:10 am Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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Gotta go with Glenn on this, I had Tim rebuild my carb for my 70 Ghia, including rebushing, as it leaked, threaded inlet, no worries of it coming out. Looks better than new. Alo replaced the distributor and fuel pump from Bill at Sparkwerks. Was worth the extra bucks in my mind.. I was not worried about keeping it totally stock, and they all look great, and she runs great now!
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| consvws wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts. |
ok you got me. send your distributor to Glenn also as it probably needs a rebuild too.
sorry for my suggestion. |
Sure go ahead. VW never planed on them being used for 50 years. And if they didn't need to be serviced they wouldn't of made rebuild parts.
BTW, "rebuild" means different things to different people. Some thing taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together is a rebuild. Others measure all the parts for wear. They have the knowledge, tools and quality parts to rebush and replace worn parts. They also have the specialized tools to test the part so they know it works as good as or better than new.
I would say that a "correctly" rebuild part will work BETTER than new since it's been blueprinted and not assembled on a factory assembly line.
It's the same difference between having a Mercedes V8 and one built by AMG. |
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consvws
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:09 am Post subject: Re: New Carb or Rebuild |
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| kent70ghia wrote: |
Gotta go with Glenn on this, I had Tim rebuild my carb for my 70 Ghia, including rebushing, as it leaked, threaded inlet, no worries of it coming out. Looks better than new. Alo replaced the distributor and fuel pump from Bill at Sparkwerks. Was worth the extra bucks in my mind.. I was not worried about keeping it totally stock, and they all look great, and she runs great now!
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| consvws wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| consvws wrote: |
| The OP is obviously trying to save money considering a $60 Amazon special. |
You're assuming that.
Most VW people look for the cheapest option. But many time going with the cheapest is not in the long run. For if it fails, the cost of being stuck on the side of the road and repairs can be many time the cost of doing it right the first time.
There are more poor quality rebuild parts than quality parts. |
ok you got me. send your distributor to Glenn also as it probably needs a rebuild too.
sorry for my suggestion. |
Sure go ahead. VW never planed on them being used for 50 years. And if they didn't need to be serviced they wouldn't of made rebuild parts.
BTW, "rebuild" means different things to different people. Some thing taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together is a rebuild. Others measure all the parts for wear. They have the knowledge, tools and quality parts to rebush and replace worn parts. They also have the specialized tools to test the part so they know it works as good as or better than new.
I would say that a "correctly" rebuild part will work BETTER than new since it's been blueprinted and not assembled on a factory assembly line.
It's the same difference between having a Mercedes V8 and one built by AMG. |
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great! Glad it worked. Go drive your vw whatever it takes for you to do that. |
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