Unable to close Long spoon popout latch.

[NAES]

As the title says, the long spoon popout latches fold onto themselves and jam up.

This is on a 61 Kombi with 6 the popout option. Happens with "real" and repop latches and I am using the spacer on the rear window.

I've never had this happen before and I'm sure I'm doing something really obvious once you point it out to me.

Thanks all for any help you can offer.
NAES
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Barndoor Mafia
Box On Wheels
SBS #00

[John Ghia]

Try adjusting the latch screws/bolts where they attach to the frame.
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BUS BOYZ

[NAES]

Yeah I tried moving everything around. I'll mess around with them again and take a few pics so you can see what I'm dealing with.
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Barndoor Mafia
Box On Wheels
SBS #00

[jonny1309]

How are your seals? I think there needs to be a small gap between the two arms of the latch which would allow it to begin close. Once it cams over and latches, the gap closes. If the arms are fully mated too early, I think they bind. The seals keeps the gap open.
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Jonny

[patjones]

Did you ever get these to work/ close? I'm having the same issue. Ive got spacers and it doesn't seem to help. The arm inside never gets far enough over into the latch for it to close. The "elbow" doesn't get behind the part that it levers against and binds way before it gets close.

[hitest]

Take the entire latch off and do a "test" open and close. Watch carefully how the front and rear pivots interact- the "wrist" cannot pivot on the same plane as the "shoulder" and still fold flat. Press both mounting plates of the latch against a flat surface to watch what happens. All you get is a fold at the elbow as shown. Now lift the rear latch plate 2mm above the flat surface and re-work the latch. Now it folds flat.

That's why the rear spacer is necessary. It staggers the rear pivot from the front one- allowing it to overlap.
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[Navydave73]

[Navydave73]

[patjones]

Rubber installed, spacer installed. Its def closer but the little grooved lever part wont go in far enough to let it latch. You can see it tweak the window frame as it tries to close the gap but I really dont want to force it.

The opposite window was also tight but not as bad, the glass already had a small crack and when I closed it all the way the glass cracked a lot more.

The mounting holes and hinges are original but the popout and the frame are repro. Perhaps they are a bit off....

[Navydave73]