how do i pass smog with a 2180cc performance engine?

[Cusser]

[TDCTDI]

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

well i do have a backup listing for a 1968 bug, would it be possible to put a higher powered engine in that and pass the test on that?

[Pruneman99]

In California, you do not need to smog anything 1975 or older. You will NEVER pass with a 1979. That's why I would never buy a later car.

I have no idea if an autostick will handle the extra HP. You could convert it to a 4 speed.

But if you are planning to move to VW mecca, I suggest you buy a pre 1975 car when you get here. You can still find cars here that aren't full of rust, and you avoid VIN inspections and the extra paperwork of bringing a car in to CA.

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

i just updated my previous post bc the listing i was looking at was a car that i would never be able to afford because it is literally a car straight out of a museum. the listing i picked out and that i plan to buy in the near future is a 4 speed 68 bug and i picked out a new transmission to handle the power i want.
primary transmission link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274637769445
alternate transmission link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274459649918

will it be possible to put a performance engine like a 2180/2276cc engine in that year beetle and use any of the transmissions i picked out with that engine? also where can i find a really good performance turnkey engine that i can pair with either of these transmissions, i'm looking for a 2180cc or a 2276cc. thanks.

[Tim Donahoe]

Seems like you want a Bug, but with a Corvette engine in it.

In your home state, you’ll have to go by their laws, so think about what you need—not what you want. A 1970’s American muscle car might suit you better. Not trying to be a smart-ass, but when I was 17, and I had a huge engine in my VW, I’d have totaled it within a few months. Speed and a Bug just don’t seem to work out well.

Tim
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[Floating VW]

I lived in southern California for two years, but I just kept the license, registration and insurance from the state I was living in before I moved there (which didn't require any smog or inspection tests). That's not technically legal, so every time I got stopped by the CHiPs, I was "just visiting a buddy of mine" in California. I never had a problem.

Also, I wouldn't go so far as to suggest buying some American iron instead of a Bug, but I do agree that jumping into a 50+ year-old economy car for the first time, with a mule in the back putting out four times the horsepower it was originally designed for, is just asking for trouble. You don't need 2276cc to put a smile on your face. Hell, my 1645cc mini-stroker gets me to 90-100 MPH easily enough, and more practically, from 0 to 60 in around 8 seconds. Bone stock was what, 23 seconds or something like that?

If I were new to the VW scene, I'd start off with a mild 1776cc or something like that, and drive that around for a while. If/when I wanted more, at least then I'd understand what I was getting myself into!

Good luck, man!
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[Multi69s]

I lived in CA all of my life, and I am older then my 69. Back in the day we would even have to smog these. So we always bought a car with a complete engine, pulled and pickled it, and stuck it in a shed. This was for our two year engine swap (smog). Now supposedly we are safe, but you never know what Sacramento will pull, so I still have my stock engines, for both of my VWs.

However, for your first engine, I agree with floating. A well built 1776 will keep up with traffic, climb any of the hills, Plus you will have far less issues with keeping it cool during the summer.
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[VWBeetleObsessed67]

i would like to get a modified stock engine that is made to go faster than it was ever meant to when it came off the production line. basically i want a performance version of the original 1600cc.

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

well then. where can i find a good well built 1776cc. i honestly have zero
experience with this stuff...

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

also this has nothing to do with the topic i made but i wanted to know if this was possible. i plan to buy a retrosound radio and put it together and put kick panels with speaker cutouts underneath the carpet and do a clean cut in the carpet around the speaker holes in the kick panels so that i can put in a set of speakers that came out of the doors of a 2008 new beetle meaning that once it is all together it should end up looking like it could have come like that from the factory. that and i plan to put one of those era speakers in the dash as well, where the factory speaker would have gone. i plan to buy a bracket so i can put one in the dash. but is this possible? i just really like the sound quality that came out of that era car because it's nostalgic to me, basically in 2009 when i was 5, when my mom would come pick me up from school, we would listen to kelly clarkson and lady gaga. and the sound that came from those speakers are ingrained in my head, they are a part of my childhood and i wanted to try and capture that nostalgia in an older car.

[Paul Windisch]

The acoustics in a vintage air cooled Beetle are strange. Do not be surprised if you have a hard time recreating the sound you are after.

These old Beetles are rather loud. You can take steps to minimize the outside noise, like from road noise and from the engine, with different sound insulating materials, but it will still not likely be what you are expecting. But, you won't know until you try!
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[polypetalous]

I respect your vision...
But perhaps putting "cart ahead of horse" here.

As many times as you have expressed "no experience," it may be a worthwhile endeavor to gain "experience" before going "all in."

Meaning, why not start with a "stock-ish" car and modify as you go, as you learn and as you get a feeling for what "stock" is?

Modified cars bring on all kinds of "other complications, headaches etc." that may be easier to deal with if you have the baseline knowledge.

As well, for the speaker question... often times the "sound" we hear in cars is an equal mix of speakers, stereo, and environment (car).... meaning just because they sounded good in a "new beetle" doesn't necessarily mean they will sound good in a vintage beetle.

Environment/placement has a HUGE impact on sound of speakers

Love your enthusiasm... dont get discouraged but take it a step at a time... my advice anyways for what its worth.

Ben

[cbeck]

With those musical choices, I’ll stick with open header. I am also older than a 69 beetle.
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[mjtracy]

You mention you want to get up to speed on the highway. I have no issues flowing with traffic with my stock 1600. Plus it will go for miles and miles with no issues. Once you get to the high output motors, reliability takes a nosedive. Depends on what you really want the car for.

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

well i was planning to have a local classic vw shop install it for me?
i will leave a link to the shop.
shop link:
https://www.facebook.com/aircooledautoshop/?fbclid...CqhbpioaVg

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

im thinking just a 1776cc now cause i just found a 68 autostick bug in excellent condition for just under 14,000 bucks and i want to get more power but i want to keep the autostick. can the autostick gearbox handle a 1776cc?

[VWBeetleObsessed67]

i just want to experience the music and sound quality of my childhood but in my favorite style car. i don't mind adding noise insulation as long as i can get somewhat good sound! ^w^

[Michael Ambrozik]

It will, but, for how long?