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Vroombus Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: NM
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:56 pm Post subject: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Hi all! I'm new here though I've been anonymously drooling over all the projects for a few years. I've also wanted a bay camper since before I could drive. Looks like I finally get to join the cool kids - I just picked up a 1969 Westfalia(?) with a pop top.
Still need to do a bunch of research and it's going to be a while before it's in the garage, but as far as I know, it hasn't been messed with too much from the original (other than interior fixtures removed). It also seems to have been a desert-mobile for most of its life...maybe I'll get lucky with rust?
Goals: Get it on the road again and protected from further degradation. Then maybe we'll go for pretty.
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ImAddicted Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2012 Posts: 1195 Location: Unorganized Territory, Maine
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 |
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Exterior looks pretty clean:). There will be some fun under the windshield seal, be prepared for that. The rear corners look pretty good. Yeh the interior is a bit rough but that’s fun stuff. Looks like you might have a solid foundation for your project. Go and stop, great first priorities . Welcome to the disease _________________ 1979 Transporter (sold)
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cmonSTART Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 |
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Looks pretty solid! _________________ '78 Bus 2.0FI
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jakokombi Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 776 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Interesting, chrome interior door handles, seat back passenger trim, remains of vinyl headliner on the window frames and no silver socket all make me wonder if that was originally a passenger Bus. The M plate decoder should tell more.
I'm an early Bay guy, and that is a nice, solid Bus to start with!
Have fun! _________________ 70 Sunroof Kombi
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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It is a good looking bus. Possibly a sunroof Bus that somebody converted. Once you decode the M Plate, that will answer everybody’s questions. Looks like you have a lot of parts there, definitely some good bones to work with. Where are you in New Mexico?
Good luck! _________________ __________
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Vroombus Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: NM
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Thanks! Ugh.... I didn't get a picture of the M plate and I'm in northern New Mexico, so possession over to my house is *ahem* at about the same rate as stock top speed..... Sounds like I might have a passenger bus that's been modified, but as soon as I can get the info, I'll post!
I looked at your bus, very nice (and familiar looking paint!).
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It is a good looking bus. Possibly a sunroof Bus that somebody converted. Once you decode the M Plate, that will answer everybody’s questions. Looks like you have a lot of parts there, definitely some good bones to work with. Where are you in New Mexico?
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16803 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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jakokombi wrote: |
Interesting, chrome interior door handles, seat back passenger trim, remains of vinyl headliner on the window frames and no silver socket all make me wonder if that was originally a passenger Bus. The M plate decoder should tell more. |
gut tells me that it was born a sunroof deluxe by the interior bits. front pop top section isn't right...either set too far back or something is totally fucked up
no silver socket in early campers (US delivery anyway)
body looks solid for sure. _________________
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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jakokombi Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 776 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Skills, it looks like the forward roof is dented. I'm also curious about the lack of beltline trim or holes, is it a sunroof Kombi like I have? or no sunroof at all?
I'd like to climb all around this Bus. _________________ 70 Sunroof Kombi
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3549 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
jakokombi wrote: |
Interesting, chrome interior door handles, seat back passenger trim, remains of vinyl headliner on the window frames and no silver socket all make me wonder if that was originally a passenger Bus. The M plate decoder should tell more. |
gut tells me that it was born a sunroof deluxe by the interior bits. front pop top section isn't right...either set too far back or something is totally fucked up
no silver socket in early campers (US delivery anyway)
body looks solid for sure. |
. Yeah, I don’t remember our ‘68 having the Silver Socket and it was totally stock, missing the cot but nothing else really when I bought it for $900 in 1983. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16803 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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jakokombi wrote: |
Skills, it looks like the forward roof is dented. I'm also curious about the lack of beltline trim or holes, is it a sunroof Kombi like I have? or no sunroof at all?
I'd like to climb all around this Bus. |
could be.
i saw the roof dent and almost wonder if the pop top stuff is just set there to cover the hole in the roof.
also the wardrobe closet isn't in the right position....it needs to get shoved rearward a lot.
so the more i think about it the more i wonder if some of this stuff was just shoved into place to pass it off as a westy.
dash pad is wrong too, but the ignition pod appears correct for a 68/9 _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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I had this whole long post going and I got kicked out.🤬
Here’s the short version:
First pic, the roof is dented but the top is slid back as well. There’s also no wear mark on the paint from the old seal.
Second pic, you can see the top is slid over the cargo area further then it should be. Also, it looks like the electrical outlet is higher then it should be.
3rd pic, solid corners and bumper.
4th pic, the westy bench/bed is not bolted down. The headliner is wrong for a westy and it all cut up along the edges. Also, there is no sink vent.
5th pic, kick ass shift knob!
6th pic, the tall cabinet is not attached, As Skills stated. It attaches to the body with 2 brackets. This brackets are attached to the lip on the slider opening with 2 screws. The lip on this bus does not have the screw holes.
7th pic, deluxe set backs. A westy would not have coverings on the seat backs, as they would be covered with the jump seat and ice box.
8th pic, nice bumper again and a pretty complete engine to work with. Looks like it has all the German tin. I’d stroke the shit out of that thing! Zoom zoom!
Post a pic of the M plate and we’ll decide it for you. _________________ __________
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Vroombus Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: NM
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Okay, here's the M plate, help!
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Unfortunately that is not the M-Plate. The M-Plate is located behind the drivers seat on the bulkhead. _________________ __________
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Vroombus Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: NM
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Oops. My bad, I was wondering why I couldn't figure it out. Let's try this one!
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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This doesn’t match the options on the bus in the photos. We need Busdaddy to chime in and set us straight.
http://www.vw-mplate.com/mcode.php?lang=EN&id=49172
Is the pop top and cargo box attached to the roof? Maybe it is a westy, as it states with the M-Plate and someone added the vinyl headliner and the bulkhead backs. Something seems fishy. 🤷♂️ _________________ __________
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Vroombus Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: NM
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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I know, I got a weird one. I'll take anyone chiming in with experience and knowledge. But it's in the yard now, and the engine starts up. Any suggestions on where to start/order of tasks to get out back on the road? |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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First make it stop, then make it go.
Soft brake lines, inspect and replace shoes and brake cylinders if necessary. Repack rear wheel bearings, maybe??? Tires, shocks, drain and fill transaxle, new engine oil, full engine tune up (plugs, cap, rotor, points), repack the CVs. That’s basic stuff. If it was in my driveway, I’d be taking it apart and putting it back together. See my build link in my signature line. _________________ __________
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jakokombi Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 776 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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richparker wrote: |
Maybe it is a westy, as it states with the M-Plate and someone added the vinyl headliner and the bulkhead backs. Something seems fishy. 🤷♂️ |
Nothing really fishy, someone just added the bulkhead padding and seat back panels to a Westy.
That headliner looks home brewed, but it could easily go back to wood.
That's a nice early Bay, not many like it these days, enjoy! _________________ 70 Sunroof Kombi
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie with a '69 bay |
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Looks more like a Westfalia than not, I agree, someone scored some bulkhead pads at the wrecker and home brewed their own headliner. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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