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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:53 pm Post subject: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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PN 025 198 461A
very hard to locate. is this the end of the line for rebuilding the 2.1? will Kolbenschmidt tool up for another batch? _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com
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dabaron Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2018 Posts: 2558 Location: Philly, mang
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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DanHoug wrote: |
is this the end of the line for rebuilding the 2.1? |
i really really hope not, i have another i want to build up, just waiting for Dave to get the broken studs out of the case... _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo
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kevinm Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Looks as if this guy has them, but they're not cheap.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353458083108?epid=2154540199&hash=item524bbe5524:g:gyYAAOSwbs9f617Y
No affiliation, but someone who also goes by the name porshnut, and is from Nebraska, is a seller on this site as well. I'm guessing the same guy. He may be willing to offer this at a lower price if you contact him directly. Good luck!
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 952 Location: san diego
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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l heard that Tuttle Parts in Riverside, bought up $15k worth when they went NLA.
my local engine builder, now won't build me any more WBX engines, as he can't get the bearings
l don't know if they will sell the bearings, or just complete engines. _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22566 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:56 am Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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$250 for a good set of bearings is a decent amd reasonable price. _________________ .ssS! |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Abscate wrote: |
$250 for a good set of bearings is a decent amd reasonable price. |
it stings a bit when they were $70 last year! _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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dabaron Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2018 Posts: 2558 Location: Philly, mang
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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DanHoug wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
$250 for a good set of bearings is a decent amd reasonable price. |
it stings a bit when they were $70 last year! |
this will be an issue for many things, not just VW parts as we are about to see some serious inflation. the urge is to stock up on 2.1 parts, but do i really want yet another box of parts hanging around? _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2778 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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^^my response to this is stocking up my bank account for the inevitable conversion to an electric vanagon I hope to have available to me in kit form in the forseeable future. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL 2.1 AT Westfauxlia. "Frankie" Totaled https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764510&highlight=carnage
1995 Eurovan Camper "Marzivan"
2020 GTI SE manual |
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dabaron Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2018 Posts: 2558 Location: Philly, mang
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Kolbenschmidt 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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mikemtnbike wrote: |
^^my response to this is stocking up my bank account for the inevitable conversion to an electric vanagon I hope to have available to me in kit form in the forseeable future. |
i almost took the bait... _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:18 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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the Clevite/Mahle catalog no longer shows a main bearing application for the 2.1 in block 15/page 730. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:07 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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i've had these guys make some custom bearings in the past.
not cheap, and not fast:
https://www.kingbearings.com/
here's the rub with these old girls.....
these manufacturers have been hit by C19 and shortages just like all of us have. i was told by a company rep a few weeks ago once things "stabilize" they will pump out the more profitable parts and may consider dumping any slow moving "classic" parts.
bottom line is they will cater to the fast moving more profitable parts. if they sell 200k doodads for 2010-2018 cars and only 12k doodads for 1960-1988 cars annually they will redirect materials to the more profitable end of the spectrum.
sadly, i think this is only the tip of the iceberg for many things. the entire world has been destabilized in a lot of ways _________________
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Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:25 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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I'm just lucky to have a new oem crankshaft and a bearing set for it sitting on the shelf.
If you want to keep these things you have to plan for the inevitable future. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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dabaron Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2018 Posts: 2558 Location: Philly, mang
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Steve M. wrote: |
I'm just lucky to have a new oem crankshaft and a bearing set for it sitting on the shelf.
If you want to keep these things you have to plan for the inevitable future. |
i'm going to be like Steve, order what i can find and be ready when i needs it. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL Camper
i had no idea i wanted to be a mechanic
"burnin oil and cookin coils" -- Destructo
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MayorMcCheese Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2009 Posts: 652 Location: Lancaster PA
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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You can always rebuild your 2.1 in a 1.9 case if you're really desperate. |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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dabaron wrote: |
Steve M. wrote: |
I'm just lucky to have a new oem crankshaft and a bearing set for it sitting on the shelf.
If you want to keep these things you have to plan for the inevitable future. |
i'm going to be like Steve, order what i can find and be ready when i needs it. |
For the long term now ya kinda need to think that way, but ya also need to think what the next evolution of the Vanagon/Syncro is.
I think SyncroJael and others have taken there's to the highest level they could for the gas powered version, next is diesel. The coming trend and within 10-15 yrs. will become viable is electric power.
So is buying engine parts a good choice? Well, the value of these parts will hold their own and maybe increase in value so not going to lose money.
The consumables - Tune up parts, brake pads and disc's are still available, but when I see the NGK spark plug cost $14.00 each at the FLAPS and a gallon of Swepco oil go from $65.00 to over a $100.00 in 5 yrs. I think seriously about spares! _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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received 2 sets of these... KS mains, STD size. $125 ea after shipping from outside the US. interesting they are KS bearings but distributed by JP Group Classic Line. took a gamble that i'll need STD size on the next couple engines.
_________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
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joymig Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2017 Posts: 14 Location: Miami
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Hi do these people have contact number?I have an 87 2.1L vanagon, curios to see if they have main standard main bearings.
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Good find. I've got a "new" oem crankshaft. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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natejohn Samba Member
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6798 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L Main Bearing Sets |
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Something I found interesting for the 87 412 601 bearing.
This would give alternate sources.
Car models which KOLBENSCHMIDT 87412601 is suitable for
HONDA
ACCORD III
CIVIC IV Saloon
QUINTET
MAZDA
323 S V
MX-3
OPEL
ASCONA A Voyage
VOLKSWAGEN
TRANSPORTER III Box
TRANSPORTER III Bus
TRANSPORTER III Flatbed / Chassis _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them.
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