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matthew henricks
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matthew henricks
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 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:40 am Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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Other ponderings as i am sure there many different logo's and manufactures. Would all pieces of glass have the same markings? I think no since the rest are tempered.
Some i have located in gallery.
No year specified. From Scottyhoffo
64. from seb67
No year specified. From matarcos9101
No year specified. from Riff Raff
Oval window. From BilliBill
Oval Vert. From BilliBill
No year specified. From Snort
67 replacement window. From Antonio Trejo
66 bug.
No Year specified. From Bugzilla
53. From SCVW
For comparison here is a Chinese modern label. From vcfvw69
Also for comparison. The reproduced tempered logo by kaefer-Nostalgie
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harrymarlin
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:50 am Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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Glass etchings are *notoriously* hard to photograph. As I was only interested in 1967, I only tracked these two. I have one at home of my cracked windshield I will try to post tonight. Good luck!
Are you trying to make an etching for your 64 (I'm thinking I'm remembering correctly)?
By the way - those photos above are *great*!!
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:30 am Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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Are you trying to make an etching for your 64 (I'm thinking I'm remembering correctly)? |
Thank you and yes, this is for my 64 restoration.
I am going to reproduce the logo and etch it on a new piece of glass for my project. (If i do not start a new thread thought then questions like this get lost in my build thread...)
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viiking
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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I've made the point on another post about the legality and morality of doing this. Note I live in Australia but I would assume the rules in the US would be similar.
The markings AS1 and AS2 relate to the type of glass being installed. It is a legal STANDARD that shouldn't be messed with.
People who are doing this are potentially identifying a type of glass incorrectly meaning that you could be installing a type of glass that is not what the markings are identifying. This could be illegal but also fraudulent if you are identifying the maker of the glass when it is made somewhere else. This is called "Passing Off" in legal terms (at least in Oz).
I understand the interest in making a car look original but I see this as no different to changing a VIN number to make something original when it clearly is not.
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:44 am Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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| viiking wrote: |
| I've made the point on another post about the legality and morality of doing this. Note I live in Australia but I would assume the rules in the US would be similar. |
Thank you Viiking. Your points are very valid especially if selling the glass to others which is not my intent.
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matthew henricks
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viiking
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: OG or NOS US spec laminated windshield markings. Who has images? |
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| matthew henricks wrote: |
| viiking wrote: |
| I've made the point on another post about the legality and morality of doing this. Note I live in Australia but I would assume the rules in the US would be similar. |
Thank you Viiking. Your points are very valid especially if selling the glass to others which is not my intent. |
No my point is that the marking is a registered logo (in the USA system) for a manufacturer who proves that the glass is either AS1 or AS2 by meeting a standard. You can't take a windshield made in say a Chinese factory, etch it with a logo saying it was made by Sekurit. It is counterfeit.
You might be not selling the car or windshield to someone else but it is still not correct.
There is a possibility that you can void your insurance if you have knowingly done this.
I am just pointing out the issue for people contemplating this. It's your car and your responsibility so do what you think is correct.
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