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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:47 pm Post subject: Filter pumps |
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Why can't they make one that fits?
Why do all have to have the bolts and body clearanced so the tin doesn't rub against the crank pulley? _________________ Glenn
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buguy Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 4915 Location: Port Orange, FL
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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I wondered that myself. Even the high dollar ones are no better. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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OE mexico engines had filter pumps
I bet the tin is different. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9663 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Since your new here.
A pic or two of what your dealing with may help us solve your issue.
I friggin hate clearancing the filter pumps.
As stated. Maybe a Mexican filter housing would be a better choice. _________________ I have learned over the years.
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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or just use a remote filter like everyone else lol.
what even hits with the filter pump covers? the cover itself or the filter? if its just the filter then this is a no brainer. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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modok wrote: |
OE mexico engines had filter pumps
I bet the tin is different. |
and exhaust _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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Paul Windisch Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2009 Posts: 2546 Location: Clinton Township, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Glenn wrote: |
Why can't they make one that fits?
Why do all have to have the bolts and body clearanced so the tin doesn't rub against the crank pulley? |
My guess? Since they seem like they were originally fitted to buggies that didn't run tins, and people keep buying them and modifying them to work in full tinned sedans, the companies that make them have no reason to change the molds.
I think on my CB Filter Pump, there was one cooling fin on the pump body I had to file down. Well, technically not the pump, more accurately the filter adapter. _________________ *ASE Recertified Master Automotive Tech*
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Wreck Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 1211 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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modok wrote: |
OE mexico engines had filter pumps
I bet the tin is different. |
Not a real good photo . I can take a better one tomorrow .
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2169 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Omg a post about filter pumps and no bashing about no going full flow. Lol _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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NJ John wrote: |
Omg a post about filter pumps and no bashing about no going full flow. Lol |
Some filter covers and pumps are full flow. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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beetlenut Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 2980 Location: RI
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
what even hits with the filter pump covers? the cover itself or the filter? if its just the filter then this is a no brainer. |
The right side of the top cooling fin has to be trimmed flush so the pulley tin clears it.
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... I spend more time shaking it than directing it?! I get a pretty decent blast for 8sec. then have to shake it again. |
- Words to live by right there!
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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beetlenut wrote: |
Chickensoup wrote: |
what even hits with the filter pump covers? the cover itself or the filter? if its just the filter then this is a no brainer. |
The right side of the top cooling fin has to be trimmed flush so the pulley tin clears it.
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Same in early 1980s with my Maxi2 from Claude's Buggies; when the casting was changed to CB Performance, same issue with that top fin.
Funny/sad Redline Weber still has same issues as 15 years ago on its adapters for carburetor for older Mazda trucks: the adapter plates are not flat, so user has to sand those flat before installing or risk big vacuum leaks. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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It still needed more, but I did get it clearanced.
_________________ Glenn
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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mine fit well....but Im smarter than a oil pump and know how to make things fit properly with out throwing a fit. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9663 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Glenn wrote: |
It still needed more, but I did get it clearanced.
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Curious who make/sells that filter pump cover.
I have one similar that has the drive shaft protruding through the gear, into the filter cover. To keep it aligned. I assume. Is this the case with this pump cover?
Before anyone questions the above question. They're made that way!
It's not Fd up. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
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beetlenut Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 2980 Location: RI
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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Glenn wrote: |
It still needed more, but I did get it clearanced.
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Did you chew off the excess with your teeth? Sorry, couldn't resist! Bombs away! _________________ scrapyards are for quitters
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... I spend more time shaking it than directing it?! I get a pretty decent blast for 8sec. then have to shake it again. |
- Words to live by right there!
My 74 Super rebuild thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6507104#6507104 |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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beetlenut wrote: |
Did you chew off the excess with your teeth? Sorry, couldn't resist! Bombs away! |
It's not the finished, once it finally cleared the tin, I cleaned it up so it's nice and pretty. _________________ Glenn
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SandHamwich Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2020 Posts: 94 Location: Orangevale
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:42 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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I’m in the same situation with my AA pump cover as you Glenn. How much meat is there in that section? If I take a file to it, how close is the internal passage? Mine came installed on a long block and I would like to avoid having to remove it. |
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ac509 Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2012 Posts: 160 Location: moved
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Filter pumps |
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mark tucker wrote: |
mine fit well....but Im smarter than a oil pump and know how to make things fit properly with out throwing a fit. |
my man. _________________ Dumber people are doing harder things everyday.
No one questions a 73' Volkswagen?
I have a '73 Volkswagen and it is nowhere near 73' long! |
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