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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:09 am    Post subject: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

I am going to convert an American LHD 1977 Type 2 to RHD for Ireland. Like all projects, I start with reckless optimism about how uncomplicated this will be. Experience, however, says to consult with those who actually know what they are doing. RHD parts are impossible to find in the USA, so I know I will be importing those. The main concerns are about steering and the pedals and whatever brake-line issues there might be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

Ah, it will be a piece of cake. Laughing Make sure to get all the bits.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

I guess it has been already decided that the conversion must be done, but... I drive a LHD bus in the UK and while its interesting for a passenger on narrow roads, being on the side of oncoming traffic with no control, its overall no bother with plenty of visibility. That especially as you aren't doing a lot of overtaking in a bus!

Otherwise, sorry, no useful details on this.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

I'm sure it can be done, but yes - a ton of folks in the UK drive LHD buses.We have people here that drive RHD Japanese sportscars.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

it's ALL different...

steering box, pedals, cables, master cyl linakge etc. plus extending all your wiring.

UK folks buy up USA buses all the time so i think souring all the bits is going to be a huge challenge.

iirc there are tubes/linkage brackets welded to the frame as well
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

Seems like it might be easier to just import a RHD bus to the states and register it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

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Seems like it might be easier to just import a RHD bus to the states and register it.


Dude, they cant find RHD buses in Europe. Why do you think hes going through all the trouble of building one here. Laughing

Or when you find one, you get an ID tag and a rotted out pile and/or its a very expensive preposition for anything else. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...words=RHD+


Guaranteed that any of these would be cheaper than what it takes to swap one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

OP, are you planning on swapping the side for the door, too?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

A fair few of us brits here in the UK have LHD buses (we have a 1973 and a 1977) and love them.

I for one dont mind being on the left just a bit more careful thinking after switching from my daily driver and thats about it. Never been a problem.

We head into countryside with narrow lanes but Michelle keeps lookout for me, especially with high hedgerows. Again, no problem.

Its all about enjoying the bus for me, never drove a RHD bus though but I dont feel like I need to.

Thats just my experience mind Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...words=RHD+


Guaranteed that any of these would be cheaper than what it takes to swap one.



Laughing Laughing 25k is cheaper than to find the parts in the UK, ship them over, modify your bus??
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

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TDCTDI wrote:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...words=RHD+


Guaranteed that any of these would be cheaper than what it takes to swap one.



Laughing Laughing 25k is cheaper than to find the parts in the UK, ship them over, modify your bus??


If the OP has a bus that’s in fairly close condition to any one of the ones for sale, it could be sold to recoup a majority of the entry fee if not all of it. Trying to source ALL of the parts, and then paying someone else to do it (if they aren’t able to do it themselves) is gonna cost a lot. And then you still have a LHD bus that’s been hacked into a RHD, how does that factor into overall value not to mention the fact that, by my understanding, he wants to import it into another country.


Let’s also take into consideration the very strong possibility that this gets hacked apart & never sees the road again.


Buy the RHD, sell the LHD.


Having owned & driven dozens of RHD cars in the US, I’d just drive the LHD bus.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

To the O.P. : Does Ireland require that the car be RHD?
If not, I would forget the whole thing. If they do, I think there were posted some nice busses you could drive (and boat) to Ireland from the UK. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

Once Op figures out he importing the car into the EU, this will die On the vine
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

One can obtain forward-facing periscopes or small video cameras with remote-mounted monitor, to position on the passenger side, to see forward when driving a LHD vehicle in a RHD country and vice versa. That way, one doesn't need a co-pilot! Smile

https://www.4kam.com/continental_cam_lhd_rhd_car_camera.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

I can provide a good bit of resources (photographs, etc.) of the Irish RHD setup, as I own an Irish RHD 1978 Type 2. It happens to be a double cab pickup, but all the relevant things are the same. Note that mine never had a brake booster.

I would say that if you want to do it right, this will be quite the daunting task, unless you love fiddling with mechanical bits.

There are many RHD-only parts, including the mirror-image steering gear box, pedal and linkage, brake cables, accelerator cable, speedo cable, floor cut-out section, ... I think you can get it all from Just Kampers and VW Heritage, though you'll be lucky to find a RHD steering gear box.

Then there is the RHD instrument panel, and dashboard. Oh, and heater cables. And the wiring will be different, so you get to redo all that.

And the seat mounts. And the controls for the airbox vents in front. As I think of things, the list goes on... but you get the idea.

If you really want to do this, browse these photo archives of the restoration for the ones pertinent to the RHD business. You will also notice that this pickup got a nose grafted from a 1977 Type 2. It was LHD, so you can also see what modifications were needed for it to work for RHD.

The actual full names of these are as follows (with a space inserted after the // to keep The Samba from recognizing it as a URL -- BE SURE TO REMOVE THE SPACE AFTER PASTING THE URL INTO YOUR BROWSER)

https:// photos.google.com/u/1/share/AF1QipOoxd39vlRZO1cXEH-yA8MHWkVQlbwU05o9rI6X2L5wafjtXtJDuGyRWgP7TMWXkQ

and part 2:

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Warning: There are over 2000 photos in these archives. I realize that these should all be uploaded to TheSamba, but that is a major chore. Maybe someone knows a quick way to do that? I have all the photos on my own drive, too.

Also note that the file names are all over the place, so it is best to sort by date if you can.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

Don't forget that unless the LHD vehicle is of the double sliding-door variety, the sliding door will open onto the live roadway rather than the pedestrian pavement.

This is one of the disadvantages of the Brazilian-built, 1997~2012ish, LHD, "bay-window" VW 1600 (air-cooled flat-four | Bosch Digifant fuel injection) & 1400 (water-cooled in-line-four) Type 2s that were imported into the UK; some of which were converted to RHD by the importers Beetles (UK) Ltd.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: LHD to RHD and taking sides Reply with quote

On the plus side, the driver gets to simply step out onto the curb. That is the only advantage to driving a RHD vehicle in a drive-on-the-right location.
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