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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:22 pm    Post subject: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

What is the OEM force/strength specification for the rear lift supports?

I'm working on a write up for supports options for a rack on the rear hatch and this sachs detail has it at 67 lbs - Passenger Side Liftgate Lift Support (SG301009) by Sachs®. Body Connection: Ball Socket. Shaft Connection: Eyelet. Compressed Length: 12-3/8". Extended Length: 20-1/8". Travel Length: 7-3/4". Capacity: 67.45 Lbs. more details on - https://www.carid.com/sachs/passenger-side-liftgate-lift-support-mpn-sg301009.html

GoWesty shays "the ideal" strength but doesn't specify https://www.gowesty.com/product/gas-struts-for-lift-assist/23475/rear-hatch-strut-vanagon-?v=

The Lift Support Depot shows 133, 139, 140 lbs for stock application - https://www.liftsupportsdepot.com/year-model-searc...R%203-DOOR
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

Gary lee indicates different strengths for the two sides, but no force numbers

The vanagon parts book specifies a different hatch strut for each side of the door.
Left side 251-829-331B lower strength
Right side 251-829-332 higher strength

http://vwrack.com/Ladder/Hatchsupport/hatchstruts.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

If you have a rack, bike rack or gas/spare tire rack on the hatch get these shocks from McMaster-Carr. Push the button watch the hatch go up!

2 each

Gas Spring

18.19" Extended Length, 250 lbs. Force

9416K28

2 Each

End Fitting for Gas Spring

Eyelet, M8 Thread Size, 0.32" ID

9416K88

2 Each

M8 Glass-Filled Nylon Snap-on Ball Socket End Fitting for Gas Spring

9416K76
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

Timwhy wrote:
If you have a rack, bike rack or gas/spare tire rack on the hatch get these shocks from McMaster-Carr. Push the button watch the hatch go up!.....


Good info, thanks, and the direction I'm ultimately going though that is not the question I asked.

My Questions is

"What is the OEM force/strength specification for the rear lift supports?"

So I am starting at stock.

My ultimate destination is to get strengths that lift appropriately - not too much, not too little with the varying weight I have back there. Even Gary Lee cautions against mas strength all the time citing danger of self-opening speed and difficulty to pull down.

BTW, McMaster car for that order is $53 + shipping. Lift support depot is $56 shipping included (you can specify one eyelet and one bass socket) https://www.liftsupportsdepot.com/20-35-lift-suppo...-250e32-w/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

I removed a Stabilus from my van that was 300 N (67 lb) but I don't know if it was oem or a replacement. 250 lb struts held up the hatch with two mtn bikes on a Fiamma rack.

EDIT: Ha! The Stabilus shock has a url printed on it so it's clearly a replacement. doh.


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The Lift Support Depot shows 133, 139, 140 lbs for stock application - https://www.liftsupportsdepot.com/year-model-searc...R%203-DOOR


133 - 140 lbs sounds like a lot to me. I recall the Stabilus 67 lb strut working just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Rear hatch / Trunk lift supports - what is OEM strength / force? Reply with quote

When I bought mine from Bus Depot in late 2018, they were offering 3 versions. I went with the middle version, it's def. got more lift than stock but not anything in a heavy lift like you would need with a bike rack or other rear hatch mounted item.
Hatch stays easy even in Winter when the shocks are really cold, so that's a nice bonus since it's a real pain when lift shocks are chilled and don't want to perform like normal in warmer weather.
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