Clutch Issues

[tunnvar]

Couldn't get the bus in gear all of a sudden. Clutch cable is fine, less than 3 years old. Connections are good at the ffront and back and it engages the clutch arm at the rear of the bus fully. I adjusted the tension a bit to tighten it up a little. Just doesn't want to go into gear when it's running. Engine noise changes when I dip the clutch and there's a faint hissing sound which has been going on for a while tbh. Do I have a possible clutch plate issue? I've noiticed a few times over the past 3-4 months that te clutch felt different when dipping it. Vibrating a little as I apply pressure.

Thanks for any tips.
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[cmonSTART]

Did you change your pilot bearing when you did your clutch?
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[Wildthings]

Pilot bearing or clutch lining coming apart. Either will require the engine to be pulled.

[tunnvar]

I did not replace the pilot bearing!
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[tunnvar]

Is that the same as the throw-out bearing from Muir?

Thank guys looks like it's going into the shop for the first time since i've had it if the engine needs dropping. 8 years.
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[SGKent]

on a 1970 it isn't that big a job to replace a clutch and pilot bearing. Finding high quality replacement parts will be the biggest part of the job. Get a hold of Robbie to see if he has suggestions. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=290054
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[Wildthings]

[tunnvar]

Ok, I'll research how to do it. Appreciate the guidance. If the engine needs to come out I've no chance though.
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[aeromech]

I think if the pilot bearing is bad you’ll see two things. Engine running = no shifting. Engine off = shifting
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[tunnvar]

Yes. It's not shifting when running but fine when it's off. Does that confirm it?
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[aeromech]

[tunnvar]

Ok I will look that one up. Thank you.
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[aeromech]

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/KF19301

or rigid

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/KF19302
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Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
Capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound

[tunnvar]

Thanks so much. Which would you get. Rigid or Super Kit?
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[aeromech]

I like the spring type
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Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
Capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound

[airschooled]

A warped pressure plate gives identical symptoms:

Your 1970 should have the "early/collar" style pressure plate, but who knows what's happened after five decades of hippie fixes.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148307


New plates can be a crap shoot, buy the oldest one you can.
Robbie
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[tunnvar]

There's no way of knowing unless the engine comes out right? Thank you for the advice.
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1970, Deluxe, 1600cc, Type 1 Dual Port

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[aeromech]

I ordered that Sachs kit a few weeks ago. It cost about $100 less than my local VW parts supply and arrived within a week.
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BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
Capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound

[Wildthings]

I would say to not order parts until the engine is on the floor and the clutch disassembled.

[aeromech]