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jeremypbeasley Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2018 Posts: 164 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:40 pm Post subject: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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This is my first rodeo with drum brakes. I replaced the pads and I’m reusing the springs, just until I get new parts in. I feel like I have a pretty good handle on how the self adjuster works but the spring keeps popping off every time I put it on. It seems way too tight.
I’ve uploaded a video so you can see. I would greatly appreciate anyone’s help. |
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jeremypbeasley Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2018 Posts: 164 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Rear break self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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sorry folks. here’s the video.
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hardway Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2012 Posts: 416 Location: Fidalgo Island
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Rear break self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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You need some different brake shoes. The adjuster lever that the spring goes to is too floppy. It is just not correct. Those shoes must have come from a really low bidder in an offshore country.
Lately I have been using the World Brake Resource brand from World Pac. I have also used the Meyle brand recently. Neither would have been my first choice years ago, but they work. I see that Van Cafe is selling the WBR brand now. I think that it is an in house brand for World Pac. |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Rear break self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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I had a similar issue - got my shoes from NAPA - guy swore they were good. It was driving me crazy. I think it was my first "project" on the van - fixing the brakes.
I couldn't figure out what was wrong until I compared new to old,and saw that the rivet for the old holds that piece way tighter - so it doesn't flop around. A real pain - taking apart and putting together 3 times until I figured it out.
I ended up getting shoes from GoWesty - I can't recall who they source from - but I figured they would not sell junk - and it works. _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
'65 Kombi - EZ-Camper |
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 1488 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Rear break self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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Yeah, that self-adjuster lever is wanked.
Toss those shoes and buy something new of better quality.
It's possible the wonky lever(s) could be repaired by tightening or replacing the faulty pressed pin/rivet that attaches it to the shoe; but it may not be worth your time if the shoes were cheap. _________________ Camp Westfalia
Camping Tips • Newsletter • Cool Campervan Apparel
www.CampWestfalia.com |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16859 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Rear break self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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the self adjuster lever will be very floppy, but that is too much.
here is a good photo of what things should look like
MOD EDIT : Right Side shown
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jeremypbeasley Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2018 Posts: 164 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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Welp. That's a shame. Burned through my whole sunday trying to get these jerks to work correctly.
I got these guys from Burley. Brand is TiBAO. SKU 251 698 531LX. https://burleymotorsports.net/product/rear-brake-shoe-set/
Guess I'll throw my old ones back on. They weren't too bad. I was just rebuilding everything else in the rear end and thought it'd be good to get ahead of.
Just ordered the WBR one from van cafe. https://www.vancafe.com/251609537-p/251609537.htm
Thanks everyone! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50336
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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Geez, the bends in the adjusting knife lever are not even close to correct. |
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 1488 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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I'd contact Burley regarding the problem and include the video link; being a reputable Vanagon parts supplier, I would anticipate they'd find a way to rectify the situation. _________________ Camp Westfalia
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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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Those aren't Burley, they are Gnarley. |
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designer Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2009 Posts: 484 Location: Idaho-but just the tip
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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I lost a lot of time also and bloodied all my knuckles last time I jacked w my rear drums. Last time, though, because I ordered up some burley rear discs shortly after!!! _________________ __________
87 Syncro Westy : 2.5l
"It is that annoying, accelerating downhill so I can make it up the next hill in the same gear. Foot to floor hoping I can get out of the way of other cars getting onto the highway." - somebody on here around 2013. |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2004 Posts: 1160 Location: Woodstock, NH
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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@Greebly - I think you are right that they are not Burley made, but Burley sold them - and they should be told that their supplier is not making the parts correctly, so they don't keep selling them.
It is a shitty situation for home mechanics - you take the whole rear wheel assembly apart, tear it all down, rebuild it - and it doesn't work right. For someone like myself (very much an amateur) I kept thinking I was doing something wrong. I reviewed a ton of posts here, reread Bentley numerous times, took it apart, put it together - still didn't work. Then I compared my replacement to the new and realized I had bad replacement parts.
I did learn not to get parts from NAPA anymore. _________________ -Kevin
Lincoln, MA
'86 Triple Knob Syncro w/EJ22
'78 Westy
'69 Single Cab
'65 Kombi - EZ-Camper |
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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Rear brake self adjustor spring keeps popping off |
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kguarnotta wrote: |
@Greebly - I think you are right that they are not Burley made, but Burley sold them - and they should be told that their supplier is not making the parts correctly, so they don't keep selling them.
It is a shitty situation for home mechanics - you take the whole rear wheel assembly apart, tear it all down, rebuild it - and it doesn't work right. For someone like myself (very much an amateur) I kept thinking I was doing something wrong. I reviewed a ton of posts here, reread Bentley numerous times, took it apart, put it together - still didn't work. Then I compared my replacement to the new and realized I had bad replacement parts.
I did learn not to get parts from NAPA anymore. |
I agree. Burley should be coming on this thread and refunding his money and GIVING him a good set at no charge. I thought until now they had a good reputation. Vangon owners are an intimate crowd, good news travels fast, bad news even faster. |
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