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manfang Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2011 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: 1500 rebuild questions |
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I've got a 1967 bug with the original 1500 engine. It's got Solex German 30-PICT 1, and single vacuum advance distributer. To my knowledge the only work that's been done on it other than normal tune ups etc, was in the early 80s some of the valve seats were changed out when the switch to unleaded gas happened.
It's due for a rebuild, it's leaking oil from multiple places and getting a little tired. I'd like to keep it as stock as possible.
I haven't had much luck finding parts to do a 1500 rebuild. It seems most folks switch over to 1600. Can you do that and still keep the rest of things the same? Single port heads, SVA distributer and 30-PICT 1?
Any input is appreciated. |
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:17 am Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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… back in the '80s my 1964 bus 1500 needed rebuilding - George the magnificent in NJ was the guy - Even, back then, 1500 heads were tough to find and he went 1600 - the natural choice - a 1600 jug and piston set too - he did a fabulous job - still running that engine in my 1960 single cab - YES 1600 is the way to go in your '67 type one - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
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jimdubs Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2016 Posts: 151 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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Just to clarify, yes you can put the 1600 piston and jugs on without changing anything else. It'll work, I did the same on my 67 |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:59 am Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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Yes, the swap is direct. Nothing else needs to change. That's probably why nobody even makes 1500 pistons and cylinders. The direct swap made them obsolete. |
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harrymarlin Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2018 Posts: 702 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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To answer from the other side of the question - yes, if you wish to keep it stock, you can still find 1500cc parts. I have seen piston cylinder sets come up in the classifieds here, or you can post a wanted ad. www.bugcity.com also has parts (do your research on quality manufacturers). Ebay periodically has parts, as well - just make sure you are looking for 83mm, not necessarily "1500" (as that was also the name of a car which tended to have domed pistons, which can be a little rough on your block). _________________ -Harry
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31270 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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manfang wrote: |
It seems most folks switch over to 1600. Can you do that and still keep the rest of things the same? Single port heads, SVA distributer and 30-PICT 1?
Any input is appreciated. |
YES.
Even if you live in a hot climate, your non-vented 1967 engine lid should be OK with 1600cc single port engine; if not, use lid standoffs or tennis ball trick. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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YES, as stated, the 1600 cylinders are a direct replacement with no downside or modifications needed. If the heads can be rebuilt then do it. _________________ Glenn
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cyclehobby Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2013 Posts: 156 Location: North Jersey
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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Two winters ago I rebuilt the top end of the H motor 1500 in my 67 Bug. There was no need to go into the case, so I got a set of 1600 P&Cs, had my single port heads rebuilt, and put everything back together with fresh seals and gaskets all around after cleaning and painting the tins and various parts. I also did a clutch/pressure plate and TO bearing, replaced the 2 rear transmission mounts and replaced the firewall tar boards while the engine was out of the car. Once everything went back in, my Solex 30/31 PICT adjusted perfectly and the car runs great.
As stated, be sure all your tin is installed correctly and rubber engine compartment seals are in good shape (or new) and you should be good to go. _________________ 1967 Beetle
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RWK Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2009 Posts: 1337 Location: S.W. MI
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:29 am Post subject: Re: 1500 rebuild questions |
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"just make sure you are looking for 83mm"
If you do go back to 1500, make sure you don't get 83mm 40hp big bore, same bore as "1500" but different. _________________ 73 Type 181
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