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Rgl1100 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 57 Location: Boston
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:32 am Post subject: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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I'd like to add an antisawy bar to my 66 bus. However, finding a stock sway bar for the 66 has been difficult. As far as I can see the only difference between the two is that the 68 has the holes bored in the ends. I could be wrong since I don't have them to compare but I have really tried looking for the answer and have never seen it fully addressed. Can someone who knows tell me the answer.........Thank you! |
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dgsaz Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Phoenix / San Diego
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Or, you could try an ADDCO unit.
https://www.jegs.com/i/ADDCO/020/723/10002/-1#
They are available from lots of vendors and direct.
Pretty easy install too.
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Rgl1100 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 57 Location: Boston
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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You know I actually bought an ADDCO front unit and returned it to JEGS. I actually didn't end up liking the way it attached to the bottom shock mount. That's ALOT of stress to place on that area plus the threads are not long enough in my opinion. There's hardly even one thread left after placing both the shock and the mount for the anti sway bar. I really feel the stock bar is better but this is just my opinion. As I said I've yet to find anyone who can give me a true answer as to whether there is actually any difference whatsoever between the 68 and above bar vs the 64-67 bar except the hole mount on both ends seen in the 68 version.......... |
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6115 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Your '66 doesn't have the stock sway bar on it ?? It should have a stock one, I'd try a few shops & see if anyone has a stock one, like John's Car Corner in Westminster Vt. _________________ Tom
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iamdonquixote Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2037 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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crukab wrote: |
Your '66 doesn't have the stock sway bar on it ?? It should have a stock one, I'd try a few shops & see if anyone has a stock one, like John's Car Corner in Westminster Vt. |
could be a brazilian bus based upon posters gallery pics |
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NUTSFORBUSES Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2016 Posts: 555 Location: I don't recognize it anymore
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Here's one: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2352030
$100 + ship
I would use a stock bar, and yes yours should have one-but it don't.
The stiffer/after market ones are too stiff for my taste _________________ kaiser kills kids.com |
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Rgl1100 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 57 Location: Boston
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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So I've learned a valuable lesson...........After all my time and money trying to add an "updated" anti-sway bar made by both Addco and EMPI it has become clear its a complete waste of time and effort in trying to add an aftermarket one. Anyone looking to add one of these please DON'T waste your time and learn from my mistake. The only one to use is a stock bar taken from a parts vehicle. I finally purchased a parts bar and added new bushings and clamps and it worked perfectly. SHAME, SHAME on you CIP1 for not having ANYONE who knows jack sh*t about buses and their actual needs. I have been burned sooo many times by their lack of knowledge concerning parts for buses. In addition, when it turns out to be their fault for their lousy, absolutely wrong advice, they refuse to provide ANY compensation back for the ridiculously overpriced items they sell you. Lesson learned........From now on I'm going to try as hard as possible to stay away from their website and products. Has anyone noticed that every item has increased about 20% in price? Sure, you can blame some of it on Covid but not all of it. Greed, pure and simple. |
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NUTSFORBUSES Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2016 Posts: 555 Location: I don't recognize it anymore
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Yes on all of that. Stock is the best. Like I said, Cip 1 needs some Bus guy on staff. Too many parts w/o testing or control. The thick bars are too thick, and Chinese metal can't even come close to German. "Spring Metal" alloyed correctly is precious metal. Too stiff is only good for _________________ kaiser kills kids.com |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Rgl1100 wrote: |
I finally purchased a parts bar and added new bushings and clamps and it worked perfectly. |
That is the simple solution.
I dug out a bay window bar to see if it would fit, and it looks like it generally lines up. I don't have a loose split bus bar or I would have done a side by side comparison. The bay bar is thicker than a split sway bar so it is likely stiffer. You would have to make custom bushings and clamps. Overall, a lot of work for an unknown result. Much easier to just find an original split bus bar.
The anti-sway bar and properly rated tires are essential for making a bus handle right. _________________ .
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ach60 Samba Member
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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The '68 bar is a different size and a different shape at the end. That bushing kit would not bolt wright on. _________________ .
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Rgl1100 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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When I first bought the thicker aftermarket bar I purchased a bushing kit from CIP1. I even called them to "make sure" it would be OK to use. They specifically told me the kit was for the 1950-66 Type 2 Bus. They did tell me that the thicker bar would require alteration of the bushings, meaning I'd have to enlarge them. Fine. What came was some cheap crap. The metal clamps(which I actually still have because, as always, whenever you call to complain about ANYTHING they tend to tell you its not their fault) didn't even come close to fitting the bushings they sent. I finally had to order a second set of bushings from. WW which fit fine. As I said, just disgusted with CIP1 customer service and their owner. Greed and gouging going on in my opinion. |
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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I just got a split bus anti-sway bar, so I took some comparison pictures between the split and bay sway bars.
The bay bar is longer, but that would not be too much of an issue since it clamps on the ends and the middle just hangs out in space. The bay bar comes in at slightly different angles than the split bar, which could be a bit of an issue fitting the clamps to it. It is also a larger diameter as previously noted.
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Rgl1100 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Will a 68 anti sway bar for a type 2 fit a 1966 Type 2? |
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Thanks so much. This is a very helpful comparison and I hope, in the future, it helps someone else from having to go through the ridiculousness that I went through(not to mention the complete waste of money). In addition, I've been trying as hard as possible to stay away from CIP1. I've found that I can get most items at other retailers. |
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